This time it could be war.

[123everton]

Iran says it will escort ships into Gaza with it's own naval craft.
http://rt.com/Top_News.html

[youngmafbog]

I find it very amusing our resident lefties put it all down to concrete.

If only it was so simple. Just how do you justify mortar attacks continually ?

Dont get me wrong I cant stand 4*2's never had any thing but greif from any I have had the misfortune to come across, but the Paletinians are just as bad being hell bent on Israels extinction.

There is no solution to this until war sorts it out.

[Zeuhl]

I think you'll find it's the Israelis who have singled out concrete...

... by forbidding its import into Gaza at a time when the people are desperate to rebuild homes and infrastructure that the Israeli army deliberately demolished last time they called.

I'm sure it's not just 'resident lefties' (and other rubbish cliches) who think that people should have access to a hospital and a roof over their head despite the best efforts of crafty bastards who want to drive them out by making life intolerable.

[Gromit]

In an act of conciliation, Israel is planning to send a flotilla to Turkey herded full of students.

Presumably, the idea is that the Turks can kill a few boatfuls of innocent civilians, and all will be equal between the two former allies.

http://www.jpost.com/...rticle.aspx?id=177789

[Gromit]

123everton

The link you supply does no longer have the story about Iran. Other links I have seen indicate that it is the Iranian Red Crescent (the equivalent of the Red Cross) which is planning to send an aid convoy. There is no suggestion that it will involve the Iranian navy (unless you have a link).

[Gromit]

Classic Jewish joke about the Jewish mother in Russia taking leave of her son, who has been called up to serve the Czar in the war against Turkey. “Don’t overexert yourself’” she implores him, “Kill a Turk and rest. Kill another Turk and rest again…”

“But mother,” the son interrupts, “What if the Turk kills me?”

“You?” exclaims the mother, “But why? What have you done to him?”

[123everton]

Sorry Gromit, on the link it had the offer.
I think Seadragon has hit the nail squarely on the head, and Geezer should give himself a blue badge for his predictive powers.
The U.S is seeking a means to isolate and or destroy Iran (see Iran's recent negotiations with Brazil for further proof), Iran knows this, the world knows this, so what can Iran do to protect itself?
If it escorts aid to a country under occupation which is then attacked in international waters without provocation, what are we and the U.S to do?
The convoy clearly needed protecting and the blockade is clearly illegal how can the U.S condone such an action by Israel?
How will other Arab staets back the U.S (China or Russia for that matter) back a response that does not compensate Iran.?
if Iran goes through with this, grab a tin hat, Israel's beligerrant enough to do just what the Iranians want them to do.

[Gromit]

Last month Turkey signed a deal with Iran to take all its Nuclear fuel.

// A key Israeli motive to attack the humanitarian flotilla was to send a "signal" to Turkey about the Brazil and Turkey-mediated Iran nuclear fuel-swap deal - as its success pre-empted Israel's pleas for a military strike on Tehran's nuclear facilities. Israel wants conflict between Washington and Tehran - and that means using the Israel lobby in Washington to sabotage US President Barack Obama's half-hearted attempts at finding any sort of agreement with Tehran over its uranium-enrichment program. //

http://www.atimes.com...le_East/LF09Ak01.html

[123everton]

That sounds about right Gromit, am I right in saying that the development of nuclear energy is not against any U.N resolutions and that the problems with Iran over this are complicated by the S.A.L.T 1 treaty as negotiated by Nixon?

[123everton]

Negotiate with what?
Israel ignores the U.N, the best way to marginilise the extremists is to stop shooting and start talking, if the Palestinians were given something resembling a sustainable nation, then the majority would take it.
There would still be bitter enders.
You're expecting justice from a nation that invaded Lebannon, occupied it, and, as the occupier allowed it's allied F.A.L.N.G.E militia to rape and murder for three days.
The man in charge resigned (great!) only to come back as Prime Minister a few years later, read his speeches about the Muslims.
Bizarrely I feel Sharon as P.M had a vision of a settlement, a unillateral one but a settlement all the same.

[Lonnie]

I think most people understand, even if not agreeing with Israels actions, but on the topic of aid, I think this this be read.

I've checked, and it appears to be correct.

http://trueslant.com/...d-deliveries-to-gaza/

[Cugetit]

Good old Lonnie. Still on cloud nine. The Israelis cannot do wrong, as far as you are concerned. We will not have a peaceful Middle East ...... maybe even world .... until we provide Mahmoud Ahmadinajad with the wherewithall, financial and technical, to achieve his ambition. Read what Prof. Norman Finkelstein (Jewish American) has to say on the most recent Israeli fiascos.

Finally, a quote from another thread, "Yebamoth 98a. "All gentile children are animals." Abodah Zarah 36b. "Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth." Sanhedrin 57a . "When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep." Baba Kamma 37b. "The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has exposed their money to Israel."

Have a good day. hth

[DrFilth]

a labour mp and some other well known people went to check that aid was getting to gaza early on this year.

typical israeli lies, water bottles rejected etc

watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z2XwUU5-8c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z2XwUU5-8c

[DrFilth]

Lonnie why will israel they not let the cameras in , what have they got to hide ?

[DrFilth]

Keeping passengers held in captivity so that they could not share their perspective was a deliberate attempt by Israel to cover up what really happened on the Mavi Marmara that fateful night,” They knew what the passengers would be recounting, but they hoped that by delaying the release of their testimony until days after the immediate incident, media coverage would be buried as backpage follow-up stories or dismissed purely as old news.



In her testimony, Annette Groth, a German Parliamentarian who was a passenger on Mavi Marmawa validates that assertion saying “The scandal is that we have to fight the Israeli images only with words. The Israelis confiscated all the activists' cameras, computers, and mobile phones.”

[tamborine]

dinner-jacket rattling worry beads again......bring it on :)

[DrFilth]

iran will not last 5 minutes

http://www.jewishpress.com/pageroute.do/43947