Are we failing the children?

[R1Geezer]

http://tinyurl.com/37rjnaj
Is it time to look again at the whole way we deal with this pond life? Have we had enough of the liberal experiment? Time for incarceration for life? Any other suggestions? I just think the public are so desperate for a new approach, the old one clearly isn't working. What is the judge on? minimum 7 years? perlease, minimu 70 years perhaps.

[Greedyfly]

Seven years is an absolute insult to the boy, his family and all people who have suffered form a crime like this!

[Greedyfly]

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[ummmm]

"He also warned Gareth Hulme it could be many years before his release from prison, if ever."

[Greedyfly]

Could be

[joeluke]

Cutting his meat and veg off with a rusty knife and leaving him to bleed to death would be a far better sentence

[R1Geezer]

Yes ummm, but he's given the authorities a choice to let him out after just 7 years, that's wrong.

[ummmm]

Yes it is wrong....but hopefully he won't be seen to be fit to get released.

[bigfoot3000]

Hopefully he'll get his in prison..

[youngmafbog]

Even though we have a new Govenment it is still going to be difficult to root out the liberal pinko do gooder juges that have infiltrated our system.
Life should mean life and it shoudl be hard labour too.

[R1Geezer]

quite right YMB, the public have just had 13 years hard (noo) Labour! perhaps the criminal scum should feel what it like!

[jno]

minimum 70 years? So okay, about the same as for murder?

Well, that's a bit of a temptation, isn't it? All he's got to do is kill his victim - it might save him from being tracked down - and at the very least he can't get a sentence that's any worse.

Nice incentive.

[R1Geezer]

That was tongue in cheek jno. But I do think harsher sentences are necessary

[sp1814]

A better idea would be this:

The government should be allowed to expand Operation Ore.

The technology is in place so that if anyone visits a site which hosts pornographic pictures of children, their IP address (ie. the unique identifier associated with client machine) is logged.

Once logged, a taskforce can then be dispatched to confiscate the laptop/PC of those who have visited the sites (a law would have to be drafted to force the service providers to release the names of their customers once the IP address had been identified).

This way, potential paedophiles would be identified and prosecuted before they reach the stage of actually contacting children.

[R1Geezer]

if only it where that simple sp, trouble is IP address means very little these days. There are many ways disguise it, piggy back or just rotate it. Not too mention that many PC are multi usage. A lot of paedophiles live a disguised normal life so you'd be punishing their familiy or in some cases prosecuting the wrong people.

[jake-the-peg]

What part of indeterminate sentence do you not understand Geezer? 7 years minimum is not the point when it's an IPP

Sorry sp chances are your service provider gives you a different ip address every time you connect - you normally have to badger them for a static one.

Even then anybody up to no good will go through ip proxies that forward requests on your behalf.

I believe that some of these groups use 90s style dial up modems and bulletin boards too.

This problem really doesn't have a technical solution

I would like to know what the new government thinks about castration options - the last was considering it and there are some promissing figures about but it went a bit quiet.

Sorry to dissapoint the bloodlust but I don't think rustyknives were involved

[jno]

my point still remains, though, Geezer. All those people saying paedophilia is as bad as murder or even worse - if the penalties are similar, the paedophile has a powerful incentive to kill his victim. The penalities for abuse do need to be substantially less than for murder, for this reason.

[McMouse]

Meathook, scrotum and hanging comes to mind