another knife death in london....

[stokemaveric]

gang warfare and another kid goes to his grave...oh well the govt is going soft on criminals.... expect more of the same....

[DrFilth]

give cameron another few months, he is trying :)

[Sqad]

Dr. Filth.....those links were quite interesting and I had never heard of the "Scuttlers " before.

That was then.....this is now.

Since the days of the "Scuttlers" we have had half a century or more of the Welfare State, ( we will look after you from the cradle to the grave)
Are you suggesting that in the last hundred years that nothing has changed?
If so and I take your point, then isn't this an indictment of the Welfare State and subsequent Political Parties.

Interesting links doc.

[Sqad]

Dr Filth.

Scuttlers, Robin Hood.....all gangs as you say.

The difference now?....they are all black LOL...my point? don't ask.

[modeller]

sandRoe # if they had an idea of the grim reality of prison life they might be less inclined to use a knife. # But is it grim ? The scenes we see on TV look quite good. Their accomodation is far far better than I had in the army and they have far better entertainment facilities. The only thing lacking is their freedom. I have spoken to several non violent ex-prisoners and they were not over bothered about their time inside . It certainly didn't seem to have been much of a deterrent.

[ummmm]

Modeller....that would depend on the crime and category prison you were sent to.

Cat A's are not pleasant places.

[DrFilth]

sqad manchester has a very interesting history

not all dirty streets :)


we have dirty roads and lanes :)

[jacksprat16]

but notice Dr, that it's in their Chinese (china town) area not in the general street .and its a very rare occurrence compared with the black incidences

[DrFilth]

jacksprat it is called china town because of all the restaurants, there would have been people from all walks of life down there

had a couple of friends sat in a restaurant when one night a triad gang came in and smashed the place up with machetes, that never got in the paper

[modeller]

ummmm # Cat A's are not pleasant places. # In what way is it unpleasant ?
Who goes to Cat A prisons ?

[jacksprat16]

yes DR i know china town and Manchester very well of course there are all races in that area its a tourist spot besides all the eating establishments BUT i say again these incidences very rarely spread from " china towns" be it in Manchester London Birmingham etc

[ummmm]

Murderers....rapists and such like.

It's just the media that want us to think they are all playing playstations.

[DrFilth]

jacksprat where are you , i am in droylsden ?

[jacksprat16]

south Yorkshire DR
been coming to Manchester very regular since pat phoenix first took to the screen

[DrFilth]

jack you mean elsie

http://www.youtube.co..._hLK4&feature=related

[jacksprat16]

yes "pat phoenix" elsie,lol used to see here walking down princess street towards Granada and could the rest of the cast at times, they used to used the main entrance in the 60s when it was shot in the back of the studio yard long before stage one was built

[DrFilth]

a few of the cast have had drinks in the pubs around the deansgate area,
curly, kevin webster and another in the oxnoble
the hairdresser who was with ken barlow , the deansgate
fred eliot when he went looking for someone was filmed in the britons protection
liz when she worked in the queens was filmed in the frog and bucket on deansgate
( think that is what it is called ) it has the sign used in corrie behind the bar

[jacksprat16]

yes used to watch liz and jim etc when filming in frog and bucket while i was eating in dimitris