Third World UK???

[R1Geezer]

It seems if you don't subscribe to a set of religious fairy tales. Preferably Catholicsim, you are third world?
http://news.sky.com/s...s_Britain_Third_World
Personally I believe it's the other way round? Is agressive atheism a bad thing? Is His eminence out of line here?

[anotheoldgit]

Many in the past, including myself have said that this country is heading towards becoming a third world country.

I think this is an aged thing, the young cannot see this because they have grown up with what England has now become, but the more elderly amongst us can see the vast changes that have taken place over many years.

Cardinal Walter Kaspar's comment was made because that is how he personally sees the present day England and I am sure he has no personal reason to offend.

Perhaps some who would wish him to not make such comments, should remember everyone is entitled to their own opinion, how many times have they made what some would consider a derogative comment that not everyone agrees with?

I know I have, and you make sure I am aware of it, while continuing to make them yourselves.

[Count-A-Strong]

plus ca change plus la meme chose, eh!

[jake-the-peg]

I agree it's an age thing

Not because the world goes to hell in a handbag but because it changes and older people often just can't handle change

Wasn't life better when you were young - eh?

Before the war?

Before people got a health service before they could afford to travel abroard? before there were refridgerators and washing machines in every home? When owning a car was just a dream for most people? when many peoples jobs were hard repetetive labour!

Why don't we hear all of this eh?

It was just a better world because they were young then and that's the bottom line

Things change - build a bridge and get over it

[Old_Geezer]

Third world UK is obviously an exaggeration, but we seem to be getting there.
But of course, such a label has nothing to do with religious beliefs, it is to do with wealth and living standards.

[ummmm]

Isn't nostalgia wonderful....

Accept certain inalienable truths, prices will rise, politicians will Philander, you too will get old, and when you do you'll fantasize that when you were young prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children respected their elders.

[jake-the-peg]

I don't see any developing counties anywhere near us in the HDI ratings

http://en.wikipedia.o...man_Development_Index

[Count-A-Strong]

Nice Baz Lurmann quote there ummmm.

[jno]

when London was the centre of a great empire, it was also a city of great poverty. Dickens' writing records some of this. Many real third world cities are still like this. London today certainly isn't. Anyone who thinks Brixton, say, resembles a shanty town in Rio just hasn't seen both of them.

[ummmm]

I like it Count....and it's apt for AOG :-)

[Old_Geezer]

Children, do seem to be less respectful at each generation, as their parents are more lenient that the last. Government does add further laws & rules to restrict us, and control more and more with each new parliment. It's not simply an illusion. For each step of improvement in one area we seem to have at least half a step back in a different area.

[ummmm]

Well I'm lucky enough to have not come across such children. I wonder could it have anything to do with the fact that most of the children I do see go to a Catholic school?

Just a thought...

[Sqad]

ummmm....good point........but it is nothing to do with Catholicism, it is ALL to do with discipline.

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

/// Not because the world goes to hell in a handbag but because it changes and older people often just can't handle change ///

If you don't think the world is going to hell in a handbag, I don't know were you have been for the last decade at least.

I don't know how you can say that old people can't handle change, I don't know how some of the young of today would handle 6 years of World Wide War.

/// Before people got a health service///,

Admit this is an advantage, but we still managed in the past by taking out a type of medical insurance, no difference to paying one's National Insurance.

/// Before they could afford to travel abroard? ///

Not the end all of end alls, unless one wants a little more sun than we get in the UK. one can see how the rest of the world lives, they are mostly all here.

/// Before there were refridgerators ///

We ate mostly fresh, and our beer did not come in cans, much more healthy and appealing than something that is months old.

/// Before there were washing machines in every home ///?

Convenient yes, but not essential though, get out the old Dolly Tub and Ponch, and exercise at the same time.

/// When owning a car was just a dream for most people? ///

Once again convenient, but we had cheap public transport, and for shorter journeys we walked, something that is going out of fashion these days it seems.

/// when many peoples jobs were hard repetetive labour! ///

At least most of the people worked in those days, and although some of it was hard, we were built of stronger stuff, and mostly found it rewarding. Not like today where large groups have never worked, some only work part-time and others sit in front of computer monitors, and if that is not repetetive?????

As regards to being young, even that has many drawba

[anotheoldgit]

As regards to being young, even that has many drawbacks, possessing no experience of life, for one thing.

[ummmm]

Ok Sqad...a strict Catholic school :-)

[modeller]

# ummmm....good point........but it is nothing to do with Catholicism, it is ALL to do with discipline. #
I would substitute 'discipline ' for ' brain washing ' . They start that early in RC schools.

[rov1200]

There's a very good saying "if you don't know what happened in the past how can you plan the future"

The problem is our current brew of politicians are just out of nappies, figuratively speaking, and their policies about immigration reflect this.

[ummmm]

I'm not brainwashed....lol