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Who should be the next Labour Leader?
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The 5 potential Labour Party Leaders, came together last night on BBC's Question Time.
Given a vote who would you like to lead the Parliamentary Labour Party?
David Miliband http://news.bbcimg.co...d_david_getty_464.jpg
Ed Miliband http://news.bbcimg.co...band_ed_getty_464.jpg
Ed Balls http://news.bbcimg.co...alls_ed_getty_464.jpg
Andy Burnham http://news.bbcimg.co...am_andy_getty_464.jpg
Diane Abbott http://news.bbcimg.co...t_diane_getty_464.jpg
Given a vote who would you like to lead the Parliamentary Labour Party?
David Miliband http://news.bbcimg.co...d_david_getty_464.jpg
Ed Miliband http://news.bbcimg.co...band_ed_getty_464.jpg
Ed Balls http://news.bbcimg.co...alls_ed_getty_464.jpg
Andy Burnham http://news.bbcimg.co...am_andy_getty_464.jpg
Diane Abbott http://news.bbcimg.co...t_diane_getty_464.jpg
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Obviously I risk being proved wrong when I say this, but I seriously think that the long-term future of Labour as a force in British politics is very uncertain.
Labour's share of the vote declined consistently in generals elections from the late '60s right up until 1997 (except I think 1987 where it improved on 1983, then down again in '92). New Labour was largely responsible for the success of Labour through the noughties, and now that project has ended. What is the party left with?
Labour's share of the vote declined consistently in generals elections from the late '60s right up until 1997 (except I think 1987 where it improved on 1983, then down again in '92). New Labour was largely responsible for the success of Labour through the noughties, and now that project has ended. What is the party left with?
EDIT: I was wrong about the details of my figures above, but I think I was right about the trend. Here are the figures for Labour's % of the vote as they are on wikipedia (I could've sworn I remembered it being a bit more pronounced but there you go):
1966: 48%
1970: 43%
F1974: 37%
O1974: 39%
1979: 36.9%
1983: 27.6%
1987: 30.8%
1992: 34.4%
1997: 43.2%
1966: 48%
1970: 43%
F1974: 37%
O1974: 39%
1979: 36.9%
1983: 27.6%
1987: 30.8%
1992: 34.4%
1997: 43.2%
I genuinely don't care for any of them. All the candidates are equally bad. This often happens after a strong PM. After Thatcher there was dismal Major and then a clutch of lacklustre Conservative leaders, Hague, Howerd, the other one. After Blair (a strong leader whether you liked him or not) then Brown who was pretty poor, the Labour Party is left with a bunch of third-raters to lead in oppostion.
Labour's vote has declined since 1997 because that was an exceptional vote, a landslide. After the Conservative's 1982 landslide, they lost share at each ekection until they lost power. It is not a sign of terminal decline, just that the longer a party are in power, the more the electorate get fed up with them.
Labour's vote has declined since 1997 because that was an exceptional vote, a landslide. After the Conservative's 1982 landslide, they lost share at each ekection until they lost power. It is not a sign of terminal decline, just that the longer a party are in power, the more the electorate get fed up with them.
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"Labour's vote has declined since 1997 because that was an exceptional vote, a landslide. After the Conservative's 1982 landslide, they lost share at each ekection until they lost power. It is not a sign of terminal decline, just that the longer a party are in power, the more the electorate get fed up with them. "
But it's declined almost consistently for upwards of 40 years. The party spent nearly two decades in the wilderness because it couldn't find a solution, and the only one they did eventually find has run out of steam. The Conservatives lost votes after '82 because it was an unusually large victory and not all that repeatable, then went on to win the largest electoral victory in the history of the UK in 1992 (in terms of number of votes). Labour's 1997 victory was still based on a lower proportion of the vote than it ever was in the late 60s and has declined quite alarmingly ever since.
(Again from wiki):
2001 - 40.7%
2005 - 35.2%
2010 - 29%
I honestly believe Labour is in quite serious trouble.
Also, I think you under-rate both Major and Hague.
But it's declined almost consistently for upwards of 40 years. The party spent nearly two decades in the wilderness because it couldn't find a solution, and the only one they did eventually find has run out of steam. The Conservatives lost votes after '82 because it was an unusually large victory and not all that repeatable, then went on to win the largest electoral victory in the history of the UK in 1992 (in terms of number of votes). Labour's 1997 victory was still based on a lower proportion of the vote than it ever was in the late 60s and has declined quite alarmingly ever since.
(Again from wiki):
2001 - 40.7%
2005 - 35.2%
2010 - 29%
I honestly believe Labour is in quite serious trouble.
Also, I think you under-rate both Major and Hague.