So life can mean life then...

[R1Geezer]

http://news.sky.com/s...ostitutes_In_Bradford
Why don't M'Luds do this more often?

[jake-the-peg]

Of course it can

How many times have I explained the full life tarriff and postedthe link to people serving one:

http://en.wikipedia.o...ers_with_life_tariffs

Crimes where whole life order are recommended

* murder of two or more persons, where each murder involves any of the following :
o a substantial degree of premeditation or planning,
o the abduction of the victim, or
o sexual or sadistic conduct,
* child murder if involving the abduction of the child or sexual or sadistic motivation,
* murder done for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause,
* murder by an offender previously convicted of murder,
* other offence if the court considers that the seriousness of the offence (or the combination of the offence and one or more offences associated with it) is exceptionally high. For example, high treason can warrant such a sentence, if it is grave enough.

[B00]

Hate this headline and every other one about this story.

Why do they have to mention they were prostitutes? If they were all say teachers, or hairdressers, would the headlines state that?

[jake-the-peg]

You know what B00

I think they would.

Actually I think they'd actually associate it with the name

"snipper slasher" or something equally tastefull

[B00]

jake, lol, i shouldn't laugh, but lol!

But yes, sadly they probably would.

[Rasman]

It highlights the danger and their vulnerability. Sutcliffe target prostitutes, so did the Suffolk strangler, as did this monster.
Why deliberately omit details from a report?

[anotheoldgit]

http://tinyurl.com/2dt3g8w

I don't think your Sky News report, tells the full story of these despicable, savage and vicious crimes.

Last week we saw a woman sectioned under the Mental Health Act and is in a secure unit for the murder and mutilation of her 4 year old daughter, and some felt sorry for her because of her mental condition.

http://www.theanswerb...s/Question969059.html

Will these same people now show this creature pity?

Because he must be mental to have done what he did.

[jackthehat]

Yes.
It highlights the dangers and vulnerabilities attached to being a prostitute.

or,

It is pejorative and dehumanises the victims.

This is the British Press, is it..........? I know which one my money is on.

[anotheoldgit]

Should the reports on the 'Jack the Rippers' crimes, also omitted that his victims were prostitutes?

[Rasman]

Yes, that's a fair point Jack, but they WERE prostitutes and it's been reported as such.

[B00]

Yes, granted whilst most of the women he murdered were just that, not all of them were.

Why is what they did for a living so important?

[jackthehat]

AOG - It is a different sort of madness that makes you kill a much loved child from that which has you give your life over to studying killers and their crimes and then deciding to emulate them.

[anotheoldgit]

Oh dear, how some people divert away from the subject under discussion.

Why did the report have to say the victim was a prostitute?

Why do they say the victim was a student on her year out, back packing in Australia?

Why do they say the victim was Asian and he was attacked in his corner shop?

Why do they say he was a school boy on his way to school?

Why do they say the lady who was knocked down, was a 'Lolly Pop Lady'?

Etc, Etc. Etc.

It's called descriptive reporting, nothing more sinister

[anotheoldgit]

A different sort of madness??????

That's a new one on me.

If she was mad, she perhaps would not even realise it was a child, never mind her own, she could have thought it was the Teddy she never had as a child, but had managed to acquire another child's Teddy, and didn't want her to have it back.

No madness is madness.

[jackthehat]

Remind me again, AOG.
From which august seat of learning did you obtain your psychiatry/psychology degree ?

[rov1200]

Ian Brady, Charles Bronson and the Ripper are serving full life terms for murder and will never be released. Maybe if they were sane they would have been released under parole many years ago. They are all in mental secure units which is just prison uner another name.

[Rasman]

BOO, I think it's relevant.
If you were a psychopathic homicidal nutter, how easy is it be to aquire a victim from the street, ferry them to a remote spot and.....

[Kromovaracun]

"Yes, granted whilst most of the women he murdered were just that, not all of them were"

Actually, all of the 'Canonical Five' were prostitutes. There's some debate over whether Jack killed more or less than the five usually listed, and of the other murders possibly committed by the same killer some of them weren't prostitutes (though most were). The

And yes, the reporting of their profession would've been highly relevant. The prevalence of prostitutes at the time meant that they were all at risk and needed to be publicly identified as the area most at risk.

Sorry, serial killers are an area I'm a little bit nerdy/obsessive about and the Ripper case is one I know a fair bit on which I rarely get a chance to shoot my mouth off about. Carry on.

[Kromovaracun]

Wait... did I just get my Rippers mixed up?

[sandyRoe]

If this murder was "mental to have done what he did" he would probably have been convicted of manslaughter because of diminished responsibility and sectioned under the mental health act.
There are plenty like him around. They're not mad but bad and deserve every day they get.