Public Spirited Pensioners Prosecuted.

[eyethenkyew]

Okay, technically they broke the law, but was it within the spirit of the law to have them prosecuted? Was it really "in the public interest" to drag this pair to court NINE times for their public spirited crime?
Aren't there far more serious matters which could be prosecuted instead?

http://www.dailymail....arm-going-months.html

[eyethenkyew]

In the context of this thread I think it's fair to say that when a house, for whatever reason, is unoccupied for a period of time, with no way of anyone tracing an owner, keyholder, or whoever, and the alarm keeps activating with no signs of break ins etc, then, having consulted my local Constabulary, I'd also be sorely tempted to take similar action to the two old buffers in the article.

I wouldn't normally condone breaking the law, but there's a limit where one's beauty sleep is concerned.......right???

[jackthehat]

You can't slap a Noise abatement order or an ASBO on a burglar alarm in an empty house................

[squarebear]

I don't follow. Both are causing a nuisance but we have to live with it where they are allowed to get off scott free because it wasn't a man made noise? No chance, they broke the law whether anyone else was involved or not.

[jackthehat]

Would your thinking be different if you were allowed to see off your particular irritant ?
Or is it a case or "well, we can't.............so why should they ?!"

[squarebear]

No not at all. If we were to follow suit, we could go out and slash their tyres as I say. None of them are particularly large lads but we are law abiding where these vandals were not.

[McMouse]

So who grassed them up?

[jackthehat]

SB - Your sleep deprivation is obviously addling your brain, if you genuinely cannot see the differences in the two scenarios under discussion.

The law allows for mitigation - you could insist (!) that the police deal with your scenario and as it's an ongoing situation with real people there is much more that you could do.

When you have exhausted every avenue as in the OP sometimes there is ONLY one option..................and you must trust that the law will understand.

[squarebear]

How can I insist the poilce deal with this. They have been contacted on numerous times and done nothing. If we are resorting to insults then I will leave the thread.

[jackthehat]

I'm not insulting you, I'm baffled as to why you are unwilling to see the differences between the two scenarios.......

[squarebear]

It must be me, as I genuinely can't see why they can take the law into their own hands but other people can't?

Please explain the difference for those of us whose brain is "addled".

[jackthehat]

I already HAVE explained, squarebear, a couple of times.

The law does NOT expect you to put up with an intolerable situation indefinately. Once you have made all 'reasonable' efforts to solve the problem and can prove to the satisfaction of the law that you have............the law 'ought' to recognise and give credit for that fact. Any action you then take MUST be proportionate and lawful of itself. It then takes into account 'circumstance' and 'effect/outcome' of the actions and common-sense 'should' come into play.......

[squarebear]

So what more would the neighbours do in my situation?

[jackthehat]

I don't know what you have suffered or done to stop the nuisance.
But making a noise to the newspapers, contacting senior Police Officers, writing to your MP/s would be a start.

And if, ultimately, there really is 'nothing' that you can do (lawfully) you may just have to act unlawfully and hope that the law will understand.

[eyethenkyew]

Just come back home, and checking through the posts, squarebear, it seems as if you apparently have some problem (boy racers?/noise nuisance?). You claim that the Police have done "nothing"? It really would depend on whether or not it's a criminal matter which comes within their remit.

If not, then I'd expect them to try to point you in the right direction, i.e. local authority for noise nuisance/pollution? If it's boy racers, I know from personal experience that they very often whizz around places like, for example, trading estates, where the Police may not have powers to deal with them (they can't just invent their powers).

Of course, as jack's tried to advise you, without us knowing your specific problem would be very difficult to try to give you suitable advice?

[Invictas]

You see where such things can lead?

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