ChatterBank1 min ago
Spending cuts
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I cannot belive that local councils up and down the land cannot find savings without cutting front line services. With all the pointless rubbish they spend money on such as climate change, diversity, smoking cessation for example. They choose instead to close libraries, stop help for the disabled or for the old.
It's all about trying to cause maximum embarrassment for the government, making the vunerable suffer so they can point the finger at the government and say "look how wicked they are". It's disgusting.
It's all about trying to cause maximum embarrassment for the government, making the vunerable suffer so they can point the finger at the government and say "look how wicked they are". It's disgusting.
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Or perhaps - just perhaps there is the tiny glimmer of a possibility that you've been totally mislead by the media and your local council doesn't after all spend 80% of it's budget on diversity officers and recycling consultants.
Do you think there's any chance that most of their money just might go on schools and road maintenance and the like.
Of course that would mean that you'd swallowed a media yarn hook line and sinker so it's probably safer just to assume that you're right and that it's all a conspiracy!
You might like to ponder why they're switching off speed cameras to save money too seeing as they are "obviously" just money raising devices.
Probably another conspiracy to embaress the Government eh?
Do you think there's any chance that most of their money just might go on schools and road maintenance and the like.
Of course that would mean that you'd swallowed a media yarn hook line and sinker so it's probably safer just to assume that you're right and that it's all a conspiracy!
You might like to ponder why they're switching off speed cameras to save money too seeing as they are "obviously" just money raising devices.
Probably another conspiracy to embaress the Government eh?
Unfortunately the area that needs to be taken seriously are the big fat pensions that have to come out of the council tax. Why can't they fund their own?
http://www.telegraph....sions-black-hole.html
http://www.telegraph....sions-black-hole.html
Lets take Liverpool council as an example - their annual budget is about £600 million or so
Exactly how many Climate change diversity specialists do you think you need to find and sack to pay for a 10% cut in that?
Liverpool city council is having to loose 1,500 workers - do you think there are 1,500 gay workshop co-ordinators they can lose instead?
Sorry you've been sold a pup and now that reality is biting you're constructing a conspiracy rather than face the conclusion that all that tabloid bilge you bought into was nonsense
Rov has a good point if emotively put - public sector pensions are a big issue - but we all know you don't get rich working in the public sector a good pension provision was part of the reason people were willing to take jobs well under the going rate and stick at them for years.
It was part of their package - you can't just turn to them now and say " sorry things have changed no pension now" any more than your employer can turn to you at the end of the month and say sorry we're only going to pay you for 3 months out of the last 4 you worked because we're a bit brassic now!
However you can stop making the problem worse - you can enforce private pensions on new public sector jobs - of course that will make public jobs much less attractive and you'll get poorer people taking them on.
That's poorer teachers, poorer policemen, nurses, firemen not to mention poorer quality applicants for running all these services too! ,
Exactly how many Climate change diversity specialists do you think you need to find and sack to pay for a 10% cut in that?
Liverpool city council is having to loose 1,500 workers - do you think there are 1,500 gay workshop co-ordinators they can lose instead?
Sorry you've been sold a pup and now that reality is biting you're constructing a conspiracy rather than face the conclusion that all that tabloid bilge you bought into was nonsense
Rov has a good point if emotively put - public sector pensions are a big issue - but we all know you don't get rich working in the public sector a good pension provision was part of the reason people were willing to take jobs well under the going rate and stick at them for years.
It was part of their package - you can't just turn to them now and say " sorry things have changed no pension now" any more than your employer can turn to you at the end of the month and say sorry we're only going to pay you for 3 months out of the last 4 you worked because we're a bit brassic now!
However you can stop making the problem worse - you can enforce private pensions on new public sector jobs - of course that will make public jobs much less attractive and you'll get poorer people taking them on.
That's poorer teachers, poorer policemen, nurses, firemen not to mention poorer quality applicants for running all these services too! ,
Weecalf - too many banks offered loans far too big to people who couldn't really afford it. Lots of banks couldn't recover the loans they made so lost money and needed bailing out by the government. Banks stopped lending so much so people found it very hard to get loans or mortgages, so less money circulated back into the economy. Big fat recession. The whole problem was that the money never really existed in the first place.
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