what do you make of the horse deaths at newby today?

[joko]

they were apparently electrocuted..but already some are saying rivals with tasers are responsible...


cheers

[NazNomad]

Joeluke, if you have a real problem with me, start an FAO, don't junk up this thread with your inane stalkings. tvm

[Dris]

Horsemeat is uber/tres strong -since it was France I had the misfortune to be served it -thought they had over done the sauce -yeauch.
Those horses are bred to race and -ive been to meets and they simply cant wait to get going.They are treated like Gods by trainers and owners -ive never see a maltreated racehore ever (dont doubt it but i havent witnessed it).They love to race and live to race -its called being a thoroughbred.
It was a tragic occurence just the same as the the plane which couldnt land in Cork -we actually commentated that in the 2 minute one interview took place at least 60 odd people had died in the UK.

[joeluke]

Who says I have a problem with you?

Stalking lol

[DTCwordfan]

lots more - my perspective is you have to try once before you can say no - there are pleasant surprises (liek sea cucumber which a lot of westerners hate) or the tips of sea grass, cooked in a rape oil from Shanghai. The one thing I could never get used to was the o-ring of the shell of tortoises, which joins the shell onto the body. Looked like rubber, tasted like rubber. It is a texture thing to the Chinese.

Haven't started on the bugs (survival course) and living in China - I became the talk of my 5 year old godson and his mates when I downed some woodlice for him at his grandparents golden wedding.

[ljdksa]

Just out of interest, have had horses since I was little and also worked at Racing Yards. Horses love racing and jumping. It is a very natural thing for them to do, particularly in a group. Ours would get excited as soon as they saw the horsebox. No person is strong enough to force a healthy racehorse into something it doesn't want to do.

[joeluke]

'Those horses are bred to race and -ive been to meets and they simply cant wait to get going.They are treated like Gods by trainers and owners'

Absolutely spot on Dris

[ganesh]

Is that why you see them refuse jumps at the Grand National occasionally ljd?

[B00]

"Those horses are bred to race and -ive been to meets and they simply cant wait to get going.They are treated like Gods by trainers and owners'"

Until they're no longer bringing in the money, then it's the knackers yard for them... if they're lucky.

[ganesh]

Or if they break a leg,Boo,and then they have to be killed coz it costs too much to have it fixed.

[ljdksa]

They refuse jumps if they are not ready, cannot see it properly or something is in their way, generally.

[DTCwordfan]

You would be amazed what can be ate for survival - the woodies were just for some fun. Went down well with the Bolly......

The one thing the Chinese do not eat is Horse (not that partial to cheese either), though there are massive regional differences - for example the South plenty of different birds on the menu, the North no - Mao tried slaughtering all of them in 158-65. In the North you will find plenty of lamb (and lots of Halal restaurants denoted by blue paper lanterns outside), hardly any lamb in the South though.

The old saying in Hong Kong is "If it moves, we eat it. If it stays still, we build on it."

[Chaffinch]

Thats right ljdksa, just as any athlete would!
And most racehorses are rehomed, if they are not used for breading or stud. I have had my TB for the last 3 years since she retired, and boy if she gets the wind up her tail she's still off and will jump anything she fancies whether I like it or not!

I have also eaten horse meat in France, but when somthing tragic happens my first thought would certainly not be about food

Raceing shouold not be banned in my opinion, and I love horses (have 4)

[B00]

Chaffinch- wrong....

http://www.chai.org.i..._racing_slaughter.htm

[SUSPECT]

pinkilady Foxes are not classed as vermin by DEFRA

Also this from a shooting guide

Animal species include rabbit, rat, grey squirrel, etc. Note in the eyes of the law Fox’s are not classed as vermin and if you are wanting to use a fire arm to shoot a fox, fox must be listed in on your Fire Arms Certificate.

[237SJ]

Interesting post BOO. It`s a myth that racehorses are rehomed. Some of them are taken in by charities but racehorses are so flighty and feisty there is not much that can be done with them once they stop making money for their owners. Very few would be re-trainable enough to be a hacker/hunter. The vast majority go to the knackers yard. A sad end for such proud and beautiful animals.

[B00]

Sometimes its not even a case of too flighty, it's more often a case of "its no longer making money, let's get rid"

[B00]

I've on doubt that some do get re-homed, but it irritates me when people claim the majority are spending their twilight years happily muching grass in a paddock, as that's utter rollocks. Anyone who can Google will also come ot that sad conclusion, the vast majority are sent to the knackers (the lucky ones) the rest, simply dumped.

[DTCwordfan]

Suspect, you are technically correct over Mr Renard. However they are considered as 'vermin' in country areas owing to their population numbers being very high relative to other countries and their attacks on hens/young lambs(i) lack of rabies (thank God) and (ii) the hunting ban............. France, Italy and Belgium still have hunts.

Therefore some slack on pinki's use of the expression is needed.....

By the way Pinki I was out there living for 8 years and travelling before I moved for 2 years usually 2 to 3 weeks a time, living both in HK and the mainland (Shanghai).

They do in the States and Canada as well but fox numbers are low and the hunt tends to move on where they are chased down and go to earth. Coyotes are more sought out.