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Turned round and said
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Why do so many people say "she turned around and said so I turned around and said" Surely they would wear two holes in the carpet ;) a phrase frequently heard on The Geremy Kyle show.
Does anyone know the origination?
Does anyone know the origination?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.At a guess, it probably started out in the reporting of argumentative situations, as shown by the illustration in the question. In such situations, the two people concerned are making what they think are conclusive and telling points. When one does that, the natural reaction is often to turn your back on your opponent as if to say, "Put that in your pipe and smoke it! You've got no answer to that one, have you?"
Accordingly, when it becomes clear that a FURTHER response is necessary, one would, quite literally, have to "turn round" in order to make it.
Accordingly, when it becomes clear that a FURTHER response is necessary, one would, quite literally, have to "turn round" in order to make it.
Yes, QM, it's never used for ordinary, amicable, reported conversation. We use 'and he goes [quote]' or 'I'm like ' [ e.g[What do you mean?] for that ! And I also defend , 'He goes/went....so I go/went...' and 'I'm like..and he's like.' as conveying more than the simple 'I said....and he replied' because the first is suggesting the emphatic nature of the utterances,and something of the atmosphere, and, in the second the speaker is suggesting a mood, often with actions or looks accompanying the narrative, to recreate the scene for the hearer.
It's notable that speakers who use these substitutes for 'said' do not do so exclusively. The same reported conversation may have them using 'said' as well as the other verbs and they do use 'said' at other times. 'Replied', however, is not part of their vocabulary, but, to be fair to them, it's not a big part of my own. Most people,I think, use 'said' when 'replied' could be used, in informal speech.
It's notable that speakers who use these substitutes for 'said' do not do so exclusively. The same reported conversation may have them using 'said' as well as the other verbs and they do use 'said' at other times. 'Replied', however, is not part of their vocabulary, but, to be fair to them, it's not a big part of my own. Most people,I think, use 'said' when 'replied' could be used, in informal speech.
But we still haven't discovered where and when it originated ! I first heard people from the eastern side of London, Stratford,West Ham, etc and adjacent parts {Barking, Romford, Ilford etc ) using it in the late 1960s but that may have been me new to working in those areas, rather than it having started just then.Anybody?