Latin Translation

[Outtheway]

Can anyone advise as to what a translation of "i am not lost, I did not fall" would be in Latin?
Many thanks in advance!

[Baldric]

Here's the first bit,

Neutiquam erro - I am not lost

[Baldric]

Google,

'Tattoo Ideas Latin'

there are too many sites to put up a link

[Buenchico]

I make it "Neutiquam erro, non cadui" but it's 45 years since I studied Latin!

[FredPuli43]

In what sense do you mean lost? Lost as " I don't know where I am" or lost as "Lost to the world, abandoned" ?

[Outtheway]

Thats brill Baldric, any help with the, "i did not fall" would be marvellous many thanks so far!

[Outtheway]

I want it to mean lost in a battlefield/war situation?

[Outtheway]

Thank you Buenchico!

[Buenchico]

>>>I want it to mean lost in a battlefield/war situation?

That also changes the meaning of 'fall' then. Replace 'cadui' (above) with 'occidui'.

[dave1948]

I doubt occidui as occido = to kill

[vetuste_ennemi]

non perivi, non cecidi?

[FredPuli43]

Just curious. Where did you find neutiquam for 'not' ?

[dave1948]

occido can mean to fall but past tense is occidi (no U)

[Buenchico]

Dave:
The Collins Latin Dictionary gives 'occidere' when looking up 'fall' and referring to the the battleground meaning. In turn, 'occidere' is defined as to fall, set, die, perish or be ruined.

Are you sure about the past tense, David? First conjugation verbs end with 'i' in the perfect tense but second conjugation verbs end with 'ui'.

[Buenchico]

>>>Just curious. Where did you find neutiquam for 'not' ?

http://www.eudict.com/?lang=englat&word=I%20am%20not%20lost.

'Neutiquam' is defined by Collins as 'by no means' or 'certainly not'.

[FredPuli43]

Neutiquam means "by no means, not at all" Occidui is the masculine plural of occidus, the adjective meaning struck down.

Try "Non perdor, non occidi " [I am not a lost person ( literally 'I am not lost') I have not fallen/ did not fall] A person 'lost' on a battlefield is being euphemistically described; we mean he's been killed, lost to the world. Occido can mean to fall in the sense of to fall down, fall over. It also has a meaning of kill, strike down, which suits this falling.

[patgreg]

perditus non sum - non cecidi

[Buenchico]

>>>Occidui is the masculine plural of occidus, the adjective meaning struck down.

It's also the first person of the perfect tense (indicative active) of the verb occidere.

[Buenchico]

>>>perditus non sum - non cecidi

'Perditus'? My dictionary gives that as 'desperate, ruined, abandoned, profligate'.

[FredPuli43]

Occidere is a 3rd conjugation verb, Chris. Where does it uniquely acquire the U from in the perfect ? . Where did you find 'occidui'?

[Outtheway]

Hey thanks all for all your responses, truly great!
The idea is to include in a poem i am writting and refers to a soldier on the battlefield himself saying he is not lost nor did he fall.
I am a bit confused as to the exact latin phrase i should be using due to the differences of opinion in the replies?