Sunday Times Cryptic 748 Saturday August 6th 2011

[Cryptomanic]

9A. (7) F _ I _ I _ N Cattle Islands. (Think Frisian but don't know?) L.ast one and thanks

[catsrcool]

frisian

[sandyRoe]

Looks OK

[catsrcool]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holstein_(cattle)

[factor-fiction]

Is that the eact clue or does it say something like "Sounds like cattle islands"
Frisian islands do exist.
However the cattle are spelt Friesian

[factor-fiction]

Maybe the word can be spelt both ways. The usual spelling is Friesian but google throws up quite a few for Frisian- I'm not sure if these are misspellings or a genuine alternative

[catsrcool]

factor30 frisian is alternative spelling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisian

[factor-fiction]

Yes Frisian is the spelling for the language/ethnic group but in your link is the spelling not still friesian when it comes to cattle?
I'm happy to have got it wrong, though

[catsrcool]

Factor 30 see http://dictionary.infoplease.com/frisian
http://dictionary.ref...e.com/browse/Friesian
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Frisian

[catsrcool]

I cant make my mind up but it looks like Frisian has become synonymous with Friesian in general use and that is what the quiz compiler has done

[factor-fiction]

Well the first link tells me nothing new

1. a native or inhabitant of Friesland or the Frisian Islands.
2. the Germanic language most closely related to English, spoken in Friesland and nearby islands. Abbr.: Fris., Fris

It doesn't mention cattle.

i'll look at the others. I'm sure you are right and some do spell the cattle as Frisian- I'm just saying it's not common and I haven't seen it.

[factor-fiction]

The third link for Frisian doesn't mention cattle either:

"Frisian [ˈfrɪʒən], Friesian
n
1. (Linguistics / Languages) a language spoken in the NW Netherlands, parts of N Germany, and adjacent islands, belonging to the West Germanic branch of the Indo-European family: the nearest relative of the English language; it has three main dialects
2. (Social Science / Peoples) (Linguistics / Languages) a native or inhabitant of Friesland or a speaker of the Frisian language
adj
a. (Linguistics / Languages) (Social Science / Peoples) of or relating to the Frisian language or its speakers
b. (Placename) (Linguistics / Languages) (Social Science / Peoples) of or relating to Friesland or its peoples and culture

[catsrcool]

It could just be a FUBAR :-)

[factor-fiction]

kayakamina may know if he/she sees this