Daily Mail 24th November

[suechu]

Help! My brain's turned to mush on 5d - a rebellion such as matters in meeting? (I have a-g-i-g)

and 8d - outcome of biopsy cheers the spirit (I have -m-c-e)

Tks in advance - bet these will be glaringly obvious to everyone else.

[emmie]

not got the paper yet?

[penelope2]

8d. Psyche (in the clue).

[emmie]

1. could be arguing

[bulliver]

5d arising

[suechu]

Damn I can see psyche now - which means my 10a is wrong. Woe.

[penelope2]

Whats the clue for 10a ?

[suechu]

Hi Mark, it's: Practise wrestling without one? It's impossible.

t-i-e-s

Looking at it again, could be triceps?

[factor-fiction]

If 10a was wrong does that change any of the known letters for 5d? I think 5d probably is ARISING ( a rebellion is a rising, and matters arising at a meeting) but it doesn't seem a great clue to me

[bulliver]

triceps - anagram of 'practise' minus the 'a' (one)

[penelope2]

Yep its triceps. (anagram of practise without the 'a')

[suechu]

talking of not great clues, if 10a is triceps (anag of practise without the 'a') it's an even worse one!

[suechu]

Anyway seem to be sorted now, merci one and all. Sue x

[mojay]

10a triceps

[penelope2]

Must admit I don't quite understand "the impossible" bit.

[factor-fiction]

You can't wrestle without triceps

[mojay]

and anag of practise w/out 'a'

[factor-fiction]

The clue doesn't quite work for me though- is wrestling referring to an anagram, or to wrestling with/without triceps, or both?

[penelope2]

Hi Factor 30, I took 'wrestling' as the anagram indicator. However if your interpretation is correct then its a very clever clue.