Messenger 408

[skyplus]

3d Quite troubled before end of day despite fairness E?U?T?
17d Fine beard that is light yellowish-brown D?W?
7d City grounds holding large number L?E?S (Leeds?)
17a Rush ordering derv, about one, for package tour Day ?R?V?

Thank you all in advance

[factor-fiction]

equit y

[scorpiojo]

17 down?
7 Yes 17a drive

[dannyk13]

17d.Fawn
7d.Yes
17a.Drive

[factor-fiction]

drive?

[scorpiojo]

Are the clue numbers correct, skyplus?

[factor-fiction]

I wondered that, scorpiojo, since 17d begins with D so 17a should already have the D showing

[dannyk13]

Wondered that myself Jo. Pretty certain f awn is correct.

[factor-fiction]

F-awn must be right though

[scorpiojo]

Agreed

[Baldric]

DRIVE
O
W
N

[factor-fiction]

On 17a, I got DRIVE from the 'ordering derv about one' part of the clue but I'm not sure I can see how the rest of the clue fits in. Where is the definition- is it the Rush or 'for package tour Day'?

[Baldric]

Chambers
down2 noun soft fine feathers or hair.
ETYMOLOGY: 14c: from Norse dunn.
?

[dannyk13]

Baldric.I can see that down could be a fine beard, but light yellowish brown?

[factor-fiction]

DOWN doesn't follow from the clue though Baldric whereas F AWN does

[factor-fiction]

Let's try it another way:
Skyplus- please can you let us know where the D came from in your 17d clue?

[Baldric]

Where does the 'D' come from?

[factor-fiction]

Skyplus may be on stand-by at the moment.
We may have to wait until he/she returns unless anyone has the paper or can find an online version of this crossword

[skyplus]

thought the first word of 17 across was day but is there such a thing as day drive? if fawn is correct for 17 down then 17a is F?Y drive?

[dannyk13]

Fly drive. A type of package holiday.

[Mamyalynne]

Fly Drive