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creamegg | 19:22 Sat 18th Jun 2016 | Crosswords
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I haven't come across this style of puzzle before, and have no clue where to start fitting things in, can anyone give me any pointers?
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Some of the clues are split in the grid.

1a is B laze d
..eg one of the 15 letter clues is entered as an 8 and a 7
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and do you have to put the numbers in like you would with a skeleton crossword?
..I don't think so, just something I did..
Solve as many of the clues as you can, it's useful to order the answers by the number of letters and just look to see where they fit in the grid. In this grid one of the single word answers needs to be split into 2 separate words.

As a starter there is only one 4 letter answer and that goes in the appropriate space in the top left corner.
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ok thanks x
My suggestions are --

1 Go though the clues and try to solve as many as you can.

2 There is only one clue for each letter. However, there are two places in the grid where answers must start with the same letter. They are in the NE and SE corners and the answers are 8,7 and 4,5 (or 7,8 / 5,4). Look for clues which fit that pattern.

3 Of the three 15-letter answers, two fit the 7,8 pattern. The clue for what would be 5a and 5d in a conventionally numbered crossword must therefore begin with either L or M. That was enough for me to solve the M clue and write it in. That answer will give you the starting letters for 6d, 7d and 8d. It will also give you the start of the 8 letter-answer about halfway down. That answer will in turn give you first letter of the the 9-letter answer running downwards, and that answer will give you the first letter of the two 6-letter answers running across, one of which is on the bottom line .

4 It is unnecessary to write in the notional numbers. I am doing this only to assist in providing this explanation. I haven't numbered thtough to the end as it is quite easy to miscount and confuse everyone.

5 One answer begins with Q which must usually be followed by U. Now that you have eliminated 5a (which must begin with L or M), there are only three places where the 8-letter word beginning with Q can go. One of these (in the bottom left corner) would mean that U was the last letter of 2d. That is possible, but unlikely. It means that either; (1) the answer to 2d does not end with U so that the Q word cannot go in the bottom, left-hand corner; or (2) the answer to 2d is unusual and probably a foreign word which ends in U.

6 There are only two 4,5 answers. If you solve them you will see that one has words beginning with different letters, so that this answer cannot be the clue that fits into the 4,5 in the SE corner.

7 I would not have said this had it not been mentioned already, but the answer that you have been given by scorpiojo resolves the L/M question, and also gives you two more starting letters. Giving you the answer in that way does not really explain how the puzzle works but it may help to get you started. For example, it means that you are looking for a five letter word beginning with Z for 3d.

8 One answer is a four-letter word beginning with X. There is only one place where that answer can go.

9 It is best to start with answers of which you are quite sure. Alphabetical puzzles like this are a pleasant change. There was general agreement (which I share) on the Guardian site that this was an entertaining but not especially difficult example of its type, so a good one to start on.

Good luck!
^ re 7

The OP said she did not know where to start fitting things in, which was why I gave one answer......

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