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Listener No. 4429: Battleships By Paddock
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That took longer than it should: for some reason the NE and SW corners were, for me, much harder than the other two. A nice idea (though an icy shiver ran down my spine as I tried to imagine how this game might have been implemented using the traditional shooting method -- thank goodness the amount of space available in the paper precluded that!). Many thanks, Paddock: I think this is a debut, but whether it is or not I look forward to your next.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.I agree with A Hearer that this took longer than it should. I don't want to be a grump in the season of goodwill, but I felt strongly that having the replacement words as jumbles - which meant several possibilities in some cases - made for an unnecessary complication. Unless I've missed something the replacement words weren't thematic, so I can't see why we had to go through such a lengthy and (to me) rather tedious step to get to a quick but satisfying endgame. I thought the clues were excellent but found them very tough, so I didn't really welcome what I saw as an unnecessary obstacle so close to the finishing line. I may well be in a minority here - I hope so.
I don't know if or when I'll get time to do next week's, so I wish you all a joyful Christmas and look forward to reading more of your enlightening and interesting comments on the Listener in 2017.
I don't know if or when I'll get time to do next week's, so I wish you all a joyful Christmas and look forward to reading more of your enlightening and interesting comments on the Listener in 2017.
I also found the NE and SW corners harder, particularly the SW. I was so stuck in the SW after filling all the rest that I did something I haven't done in a long time - I hit the 'autofill' button in Sympathy just to see what it might come up with, and went through some of the possibilities to see if they were supported by the clues.
I'm inclined to agree with Hagen about the jumbling of the replacements, though preamble info did help with some. I found three locations easily but struggled with the last two, especially as I was missing an extra letter for one of them because the wordplay of one clue completely defeated me. In the end I saw a location for the other letters so managed to deduce the missing letter.
I must say that I did admire many of the clues, though there are still four that I don't fully understand.
One more task remains - the highlighting. Nothing's jumped out at me yet.
I'm inclined to agree with Hagen about the jumbling of the replacements, though preamble info did help with some. I found three locations easily but struggled with the last two, especially as I was missing an extra letter for one of them because the wordplay of one clue completely defeated me. In the end I saw a location for the other letters so managed to deduce the missing letter.
I must say that I did admire many of the clues, though there are still four that I don't fully understand.
One more task remains - the highlighting. Nothing's jumped out at me yet.
While tending to agree with those who were unhappy about the jumbles, I think that showing them en clair would have reduced the satisfaction of working them out and fitting them in. There is a logical pathway that begins with identifying the letter that isn't among the extras and then spotting the red herrings. I don't think I'm giving anything away to those who are still toiling.
The true brilliance of this debut (confirmed by the Crossword Database) is in the creation of clues worthy of Sabre, every single one having something thematic in it, with a rare combination of wit (40ac, 4dn) and audacity (24/26ac).
I didn't begrudge a minute of the time I spent on it. Surely a contender for POTY?
The true brilliance of this debut (confirmed by the Crossword Database) is in the creation of clues worthy of Sabre, every single one having something thematic in it, with a rare combination of wit (40ac, 4dn) and audacity (24/26ac).
I didn't begrudge a minute of the time I spent on it. Surely a contender for POTY?
Steady on Happy Uncle.
"making new crossing words" in the preamble suggested that ALL the crossing words would change.
Is there not another convention to the effect "all entries in the final grid are real words", which more accurately describes this puzzle?
Very good clues, some almost impenetrable.
We don't think that it would have been improved by the insertions being given in clue order - last week people were saying that the absence of jumbling made it too easy.
This was emphatically not a grid-stare - it was a sequential process of deduction derived from reading the preamble.
"making new crossing words" in the preamble suggested that ALL the crossing words would change.
Is there not another convention to the effect "all entries in the final grid are real words", which more accurately describes this puzzle?
Very good clues, some almost impenetrable.
We don't think that it would have been improved by the insertions being given in clue order - last week people were saying that the absence of jumbling made it too easy.
This was emphatically not a grid-stare - it was a sequential process of deduction derived from reading the preamble.
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