Telegraph Sat.

[avalone]

Is it possible to download today's prize crossword.I seem to recollect someone giving the details a while ago.

[roslyn251254]

don't think so ... you have to be a subscriber or know someone who is....
what's your email ...could send you a scan ??

[dannyk13]

Download it from here:-
http://puzzles.telegraph.co.uk/_admin/printing/tmp/1538235545.pdf

[jourdain2]

I think you have to be a subscriber. I've been trying to contact them to point out that the clue for 9D (28,857) is misleading (in fact it is wrong in one item), but all the website is about is how to subscribe.

[dannyk13]

Jourdain, it can be downloaded from my link.How is 9d wrong?

[Mamyalynne]

Jourdain is referring to the Cryptic Danny.

[dannyk13]

Still can't see where it is wrong.

[Mamyalynne]

Jourdain, if you are querying 'Primary Colours' - Green does sneak in there in some definition.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/primary-colour

[jourdain2]

Yes, green is not a primary colour. I'm trying not to spoil the fun for avalone and others by spelling it out. :0) xx

[Mamyalynne]

I was happy to accept that and of course 'Primary' for School.

[jourdain2]

mamya - the link is wrong. I've never heard that in my life and I did A-level art and art history and went to Manchester Art College. Green is made by a mix of blue and yellow, so is secondary. I suspect that manufacturers of these tubes of paints for children are supplying it (pre-mixed) because tinies aren't very good at mixing! But they'll never learn of course if they don't do it and it spreads misinformation. :(

[dannyk13]

RGB is shown as primary colours in some definitions.

[dannyk13]

Relating to televisions etc RGB are the primary colours.

[Mamyalynne]

Chambers - often the setters' choice has red,green,blue.

I'm content enough that a cryptic crossword won't affect too many adversely if we disagree.

However there is always a way to contact a publication.

[jourdain2]

Well, I'll just have to plough a lone furrow then! A primary colour is one that cannot be mixed from others - green can be. Not to worry, life's too short. :)

[Mamyalynne]

//The three additive primary colours are red, green, and blue; this means that, by additively mixing the colours red, green, and blue in varying amounts, almost all other colours can be produced.//

https://www.britannica.com/science/color

I don't know what else to say - other than , sorry Avalone for my part in the digression here and hop you get your Prize crossword printed.

[dannyk13]

I too hope that Avalone can get the download.

[jourdain2]

Ditto. I think conundrum is solved. My dictionary explains that in Art, the primary colours are red, blue and yellow - but in Science green is included. Well, that's science for you.:)

[jourdain2]

^^ PS 'almost all other colours can be produced'. Not yellow - you can't do it. Anyway, we now have an explanation, so that's put to bed.