Listener 4020: Raj by Llig

[midazolam]

Even though the weekly link for the listener has been taken away, I thought I would create a thread anyway.

Llig gave us a fairly straightforward puzzle last year concerning Ralph Vaughan Williams, and this one is also a fairly easy, but satisfying, effort. (Compared to last 2 weeks)

Lots of anagrams and hidden answers for beginners to the Listener world. Enjoy and if anyone misses the paper tomorrow I can e-mail a copy of the crossword to you:

[email protected]

[AHearer]

Yes, midazolam, a much more straightforward puzzle - so much so that I almost felt let down after the recent challenges! Might have time to make a snowman after all.

[cluelessJoe]

Many thanks Midazolam .. snowbound, so I'm off on a 6 mile hike across frozen fields to get my copy. Might take you up on your generous offer if the delivery lorries have not made it, though that only happened once before when the west country was flooded out. Back later, cheers

[perseverer]

Is the denouement not quite right, or am I missing something?

(Puzzle must be easy if I finished it on Friday evening!)

[kayakamina]

Thanks for the offer midazolam but the roads are clear in Kent and I was able to get my copy from the newsagent.

[AHearer]

Perseverer, is your concern that one of the shaded items does not seem to be of the right kind? If so, it worried me too but its entry in Chambers shows that the word can be used loosely in the way intended.

[bobbycollins]

Agreed, guys, straightforward but a satisfying break from the last couple of mind-numbers. Completed with just Chambers - first time for a long while.

My sixth edition OED gives the quotaion with the addition of a conventional "E" . I have an older copy in work which may well give the version used here. On the other hand why don't I just google it!

We have escaped the snow on the North West coast and the sun is shining nicely. Enjoy the weekend, all.

[bobbycollins]

Sorry, slip of the brain - I meant ODQ

[perseverer]

AHearer - thanks.

Had checked the word I wanted to shade in Chambers, rather than the word from the quote.

[Lewap]

Hello again, all!
Yes, a relatively straightforward offering this week...
...however I can't figure out what connection 11 of my shaded letters have with the other obviously thematic ones...(trying desperately not to give anything away here!!)...can anyone shed some light?
Thanks in anticipation
Lewap

[Rollo]

Seems like the unavailability of the puzzle online has prompted discussion of it.

Is it now allowed?

:-))

[Philoctetes]

Lewlap - look at the quote
I feel as if I've eaten a Chinese meal. Went down nicely, satisfied at the end, but a couple of hours later feel I want another. A bit too straightforward, I feel.

[Lewap]

Thanks Philoctetes - I feel particularly silly now!
Although, if I were Llig and was able to work it into the grid, I would have used a more obvious example for the shorter-lengthed highlight.

Regards
Lewap

[bobbycollins]

Rollo

Intrigued by your question. I have contributed to this site for a year or so now, and enjoy the friendliness of the exchanges. The puzzles ARE discussed, but the generally accepted protocol seems to be "hint without giving the game away". Sometimes the line is crossed, and somebody will invariably, politely, point this out.

The Listener Police sometimes butt in and this annoys me. As I always say (or was it Juvenal?) :

"Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?"

[Lewap]

Just out of interest, I wonder how many of us regular solvers are ex-Latin/Greek/Classics scholars...it's not everyday that someone quotes Juvenal!
If there was ever an argument for bringing back the teaching of Latin in schools, being able to complete the Listener crossword would be it!
What did the Romans do for us???
They helped us complete the Listener - and without them, and it, my life would certainly be less enjoyable.
Valete omnes!
Lewap

[Clamzy]

Well maybe one of you classical scholars can help me out with a query?
My edition of the ODQ gives the quotation with 24 letters but as described in the preamble, my extra letters from wordplay add up to 23 i.e. half the total. I'm assuming that Lig is using an unseen apostrophe.

[perseverer]

Clamzy, see bobbycollins earlier post.

My 1979 3rd ed ODQ has the 23 letters version, as does my copy of the original work..

[Patch49]

Latin - O level only. Nil Greek - I was a NatSci Grad (often referred to as coming from the "wrong end" of TCD. )

[cluelessJoe]

O-level Latin too, but an extra voluntary 4 terms of it in the 6th form to fill in the free periods. All invaluable.

Puzzle a slight let down, but the walk through the snow was rewarded by the discovery that the Saturday price is down to a quid.

To compensate, the following may be of interest to hard copy users - the paper itself seems only to have a 2 for 1 pizza offer, but I received this mailing extract from the Times a couple of days ago

Enjoy - or maybe let your kids / grandchildren etc enjoy!


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[perseverer]

Scottish Higher grade in Latin, and married to a Latin teacher. Do I win?

(But I'm a science graduate.)

[Philoctetes]

Classics at Oxford (otherwise known as .... see previous Listener)