Listener 4107 - European Revolutions by Spud

[daagg]

A lovely ending! The "19 letters" is quite funny.

[AndrewG-S]

speravi - if you get really desperate e-mail me ([email protected]) and I am happy to give a nudge, but it looks like you are pretty close

[the_heisman]

daagg - i see your post was timed 19:18 on Friday which is truly impressive. When does the x-word get posted onto the site? Is there a rule? It has always seemed quite late in the day when i have tried.

[Ruthrobin]

It goes on at 16.00. Daagg certainly raced to the finish!

[daagg]

Sometimes you are just a bit lucky, although this one has something in common with a recent Magpie puzzle, which did help a bit.

[daagg]

Speravi, imagine carrying out the instruction on the real puzzle. You seem to know what happens to the across clues' element, but other elements are modified as well, in a well-defined way.

[jamesah]

I have at last finished after some invaluable assistance. I can't cope with the spatial geometry but I assumed that the six thematic elements are not distributed randomly which helped me get to the end. An amazing construction!

[Patch49]

Think I'm on the final run home now and all these comments are at last making sense.
ps - I used to go to Pony Club Camp in Mullingar....

[turast]

Finally limped, battered, across the finishing line, supported by Clamzy & AndrewGS, having been obsessed by the appearance of the original (which I hated first time round), and fixated on the floor plan of a church. Also thought the unaffected element was given as an example, and not included in the 54. D'oh!

[Ruthrobin]

Trux, when you get back on Sunday, please drop me a line at [email protected].

[Mysterons]

Antmark - you have moved 8 cells, but only amended 7, as one E replaces another. For the other 12 amendments, think of what happens to the adjacent faces of the cells you moved.

[Malcolmd]

A very hard grind for me but a wonderful result. Had to use the cardboard recycling to get there.

[cluelessJoe]

A late comment from me - sorry Spud, I was thinking I'd already posted. Just to say congratulations on a fine debut puzzle, most enjoyable - and for once, I'm not going to complain about the lack of real words in the final grid. Well done, keep it up!

[Cruncher]

Tough puzzle made harder by viewing the unaltered element as a single unit rather than a collection of smaller units. Still not sure whether I have the final answer as I can't figure out what thematic treatment needs to be applied to the scrambled entries. The alterations I have made don't effect all of the scrambled entries and also effect some of the normal entries too. Am I missing something?

[Mysterons]

No, you are fine Cruncher - do exactly what it says on the tin for the Scrambled entries.

[Archie1962]

Finished!!!!!

That must be the latest I have ever finished a Listener. Really pleased because it was a hard one (I thought) and clever. And as an aficionado of the puzzle since my (long gone) student days I would have been very disappointed to miss out. Especially having filled the grid in Merchandise but missed out on the quotation. I thought the same was going to happen again.

Now to find some coloured pens...

[Roundhillbob]

Got to this late, but, after a long struggle and vital contribution from maths co-solver, got to the final result.
Brilliant puzzle. Candidate for best of the year?

[Roundhillbob]

Got to this late, but finally got to the end.
Brilliant puzzle. Candidate for best of the year?

[Roundhillbob]

Apologies for the duplication (if anyone is still reading this stream - most of you are completing today's, I expect. I'll get to that later). At first attempt, the site said I needed to log in.

[Lewap]

Hi all

I'm still searching in vain for the correct 54 cells. Have located those implied by the down misprints, and indeed those implied by the across misprints. Have the theme and hence understand "Highlighted appropriately", despite at least one thematic entry (the one that doesn't change) being not a traditional entity.
However, an earlier post on this thread has thrown me somewhat. That concerning a recent Magpie - I remember this. The orientation of the highlighted letters in this x-word was askew. Would I be right in assuming European Revolution takes a more traditional way of displaying its 54 letters. ie the arrangement of each of the 6 thematic words is ultimately displayed in the same format as the unchanged (down misprints) word.
I hope I have been suitably cryptic!
Thanks

Lewap

[Clamzy]

Lewlap. As mentioned earlier the colours here are not conventional and the two given by the extra letters are included in the 54. I didn't see the Magpie one but in this case the format is the item from scrambled clues is opened out flat.
Hope this helps. If not email address above.