Listener 4165

[gribble]

I have completed apart from the highlighting, I can see one of the first two words of verse which are the same in top right hand section, but after hours of looking, I guess its something completely different you highlight, any hints please

[mullingar]

It's typially fiendish. I'm sure you can see the other half too. It's just a mater of understanding why it is where it is. Good luck

[Quizmonster]

If your first word starts in Col 8 Row 3, diagonally above the OPENING letter you will see a letter which is the CLOSING one of the other version of the same word. Trace back from there to get all of the last five letters of the word laid out in a similar fashion. You'll then find the opening two letters, set apart, in Cols 1 and 2.
Highlight the 14-letter sequence in pencil and think of that as the 'flight' of something. Then look at 'wink' in Chambers to see what it may be the flight OF, looking for synonyms...ie 'variations'.

I hasten to add that this is MY interpretation of what is required, but I may well be completely wrong! Good luck.

[mullingar]

Excuse the typing. That should read typically and matter. I'm not sure I share or understand Quizmonster's explanation so one of us is mistaken. I was guided to a more musical explanation

[gribble]

Mullingar and Quizmonster many thanks for your kind hints, I will have another look and will post here if I do eventually get it, thanks once again.

[Quizmonster]

G, as you haven't reposted, I assume you are no further forward and - given Mullingar's comment on my earlier answer - I can see no harm in telling you what I was getting at.
Col 8 Row 3 has T and next to it W. Diagonally to the right below, there is I and N with, again diagonally to the right below, K and L with, again diagonally to the right below, E, spelling in total TWINKLE.
Col3 Row 2 has I and next to it N. Diagonally to the right above, there is K and next to it L. Diagonally to the right below is E, next to the T of the first twinkle. That gives INKLETWINKLE at the top..."up above the world so high"...so there's a TW missing.
In Col 1 Row 6 there is a T and next to it W on the same level as the E at the end of the first twinkle.
Chambers gives wink (verb) as twinkle and wink (noun) as tiddlywink. If you see the T in Col 1 as the tiddlywink you hold and the W as the one you mean to send flying, the rest of the highlighting looks quite like the flight of the flicked one...rapid climb and gradual fall into the cup at the end.

As I said before, utter nonsense, in all probability! Actually, I have very little patience for what some call "the endgame" and I call "the shenanigans", for the simple reason that these virtually never have anything to do with solving cryptic crossword clues. In fact, I lost interest in most of the usual faffing-about at around the time I suddenly discovered that girls were really rather attractive...and that's a helluva long time ago!

[gribble]

Quizmonster, yes I can see the other letters for twinkle, but tiddlywinks? that seems a bit far fetched ,but made me laugh, my apologies if your right one last look this evening, thanks again

[Quizmonster]

G, I've just had another thought and may have got there "by the back door", as it were. Given Mullingar's music reference, it occurs to me - though I am no musician - that the positions of the individual letters I have already provided, as they flow along and up and down, seem awfully like the positions of the notes involved in the tune for "Twinkle twinkle litle star, how I wonder what you are" on a piece of sheet-music.

[gribble]

thanks Quizmonster you are correct all makes sense now, I still like you're tiddlywink theory though, thanks again