times 23/7 still

[wideboy]

Still stuck on 2 dn:

Endeavour to hold up reptile by its extremities: it may bite (7)

I have r - m - r - e

 

unless 1 ac is NOT forefather (says it is 'heard' therefore fourfather??!!

this makes 2 dn start with u?

Answer seems to be remorse - don't know why, apart from re being extremities of reptile.

[d0gsb0dy]

There is also remerge. Have you got character wrong, maybe?

[wideboy]

Had remerge (only other possibility?) but don't know how it answers the clue.

[d0gsb0dy]

Forefather?

[d0gsb0dy]

Sorry, ignore my last post !

[d0gsb0dy]

what is 1a. clue?

[biley]

Remorse seems right to me. As you say RE are the extremities or reptile and endeavour was Inspector(?) MORSE's christian name. Not sure about The Times clues but it appears to me that remorse "may bite".  ??

[wideboy]

1ac clue:

Hamlet's rude ancestor heard warning priest (10)

Forefather fits but why 'heard' warning? (fore in golf)

[wideboy]

Like the endeavour for morse - I'd forgotten his name was revealed as this at the end. Still don't understand bite for remorse.

[d0gsb0dy]

It reads like the extremities of endeavour to me.

[Quizmonster]

'Remorse' means 'bite back', based on its Latin source-word 'mordere' = to bite...as in 'mordant' = biting. I ac is forefather and 'fore' - as someone has already said - is the warning shout in golf, whilst 'father' is the normal title given to a priest.

[kosoro]

Fore is warning in Golf and a priest is known as father

[wideboy]

Will go with remorse meaning to 'bite back' - thanks all!

Had forefather, understand all the clue except the 'heard' bit.

[d0gsb0dy]

Surely The Times doesn't expect it's readers to have a good command of Latin in order to complete the crossword? For the Mephisto, maybe, but this seems a little over the top for the ordinary puzzle (which I have won the prize for, incidentally).

[Quizmonster]

The 'heard' is just a reference to the fact that the word 'Fore!" is shouted...ie it is an aural warning. Cheers

[Quizmonster]

Dear Dogsbody, The Times often demands a knowledge of Latin, though that doesn't really apply in this case. We all know, for example, that a 'mortal' wound is one that ends in death, whether we know it comes from the Latin 'mori' = die or not. By the same token, many people will be aware where 'remorse' comes from.

[d0gsb0dy]

Maybe, QM, but how many people have got Latin reference books? The whole clue was, in my opinion, nebulous. Then, maybe I'm thick �

[wideboy]

Thanks, Quizmonster - aural indeed. (Usually get 'fore' as a warning WITHOUT being told it is 'aural' - nebulous indeed. By the way, I did Latin (quite well and use it a lot for crossword clues)