Bluecoat Quiz

[Big Kev]

Real Defender 8,8
Captain Turned Commentator 7,8
World Cup Winner 3,6

Surnames are all names of towns in the British Isles

[goldfish1]

Real defender - Jonathan Woodgate (maybe)

[TonyGribben]

Captain Turned Commentator Michael Atherton

World Cup Winner Alf Ramsey

Any more Big Kev

[Big Kev]

Thanks for that Tony,
Yes I am a few more missing but I didn't want to appear cheeky asking!
Yorks and England Batsman 7,7
Unseeded Wimbledon Semi Finalist 4,8
Architect remembered by Betjeman 6,6
Crazy Gang Member 4,4
Gold 60, Silver 64, Bronze 68 5,6
Scottish Venetian 5,8
Thanks for all your help.
Big K

[TonyGribben]

Kev These are the answers I have got. Cannot say for sure that they are right but you can use them if you want to.

Maurice Leyland

Dick Stockton

Joseph Paxton

Alan Cork

Ralph Boston

James Sterling

Good Luck

[Big Kev]

Thanks once again Tony ....

Just about to send it off when I noticed that No 72 was not answered
Peace Messenger 7,7
By the way best of luck to you also!

Big Kev

[TonyGribben]

Kev

I have got Michael Douglas for my answer

[Oldnathan]

The Blue Coat is a school in Oldham. Every Christmas it sells a themed quiz with the primary aim of raising much needed cash for school funds. But there is a small cash prize for the winner(S).

There are no 'rules' on how you find your answers but what these dim-wits are doing, by asking complete strangers to give them the answers on this website, is going to kill the quiz. If someone posts all 100 questions on here next year and everyone has the same bleedin' 'right' answers who is going to bother buying it the following year?!

I've notified the school and passed on all your names. Don't worry you can't be disqualified - like I said there are no rules - but I hope that you all feel a deep sense of shame when the school announces next year, or maybe the year after at best, that the quiz has had to cancelled.

[Big Kev]

Hi Old Nathan,
As the originator of this particular thread I feel you are right in what you say ..... however most people are drawn to this site because the search engines point you there!
People will still buy the quiz first and foremost because they like the challenge it presents. They firstly try brainpower, then (because the answers have over the years grown more and more obscurre they ultimately have to resort to the internet. Years ago answers were found by spending time in the reference section of local libraries. Now many hours are spent trawling around for the answers on the internet but the sense of satisfaction when one is found makes it all worthwhile.
Parents with children still at school will get to know answers by word of mouth, others will do like I did until last week and putting parts of the question into the search engines and see what it brings up. They may not all post questions on this site ..... they may just read the answers!
When time is running out, the closing date is coming fast and there are just a small number of questions left to answer.... how many people would not ask their friends if they knew any of the missing answers?
OK the 'friends' circle on the internet is large .... and I am extremely surprised that people would volunteer their hard sought answers.
I cannot see anyone going to the trouble of finding all the answers only to give them all away by posting them on the web ..... human nature is not like that!
How many people buy crossword books that have the answers at the back?
If the school wants to return to a level playing field then make the questions less obscure so that anyone even without a computer could with a little research in their local library find the answers.......and DO NOT GIVE OUT ANY PRIZES AT ALL .
The school will make more money that way and only those interested in doing it for fun will buy the quiz to take part.

[Oldnathan]

Thanks for a measured response to my vitriol. It wasn�t directed at anyone personally which is why I posted it on so many threads. And there are lots.

A confession. I�ve been doing the quiz for six years with the help of two friends. We all use Google and compare answers after. So I don�t pretend that I do this in isolation using my limited brain power. But there�s a huge difference between consulting friends and Google and sharing with complete strangers for everybody else to copy. How many others have read the answers without leaving any trace? And I�m afraid you are wrong, there is at least one person on here that appears to be helping all and sundry to complete all 100. Clearly a lovely bloke, I wish him no ill, but he is seriously misguided if he thinks he is the school.

In the six years I�ve been doing it I�ve only once got it 100% right once (didn�t get a prize). That�s why I keep trying. There are posts on here requesting anything up to 10 answers at a time on the relatively easy ones. I ran out of �top of my head� answers after the Punk Bassist, but good grief, a basic grasp of brings up 1-90, with a bit of lateral thinking. The quiz setter told me he had to make the last few at least initially �Google-proof� or someone with even basic PC skills could have the quiz finished in a evening. His words not mine. He is not happy, believe me.

I�ll get off me soap box now but one final point. I agree, I don�t need the prize money as an incentive. I do it for fun. But if more than 50% of the answers are on here next year (and believe me if you look far enough back it must be nearly that) then I can�t see the point of doing it. If enough people can�t see the point then the school will not bother either. I know because they�ve told me.

I do not represent the school and wouldn�t attempt to. But I urge you all � posters and answerers - to stop doing it.

Thanks again.

[Big Kev]

Hi again old Nathan,
Thanks for the reply and for reading my long letter it in the spirit in which it was sent.
How many people buy the vast number of different crossword, sudoku and puzzle books that have all the answers printed in the back?
I suspect a great many and they then resist for as long as possible before having a sneaky look when they get a little stuck.
Even if all the answers to the quiz were posted on various sites then nobody is actually compelled to go there and have to look and, if there are no prizes, then is it that so much of a problem if people do.
Making the quiz ultra hard just plays into those who are extremely clever at using the internet and/or those with a great deal of time to spend on doing it.
I hope that the school continues to run the competition as I am sure that most people will quite happily give their �1 just for the enjoyment and conversation it gives whilst visiting relatives etc over the Christmas period.
Do not give any prizes at all ..... then the completed forms do not even have to be sent in .... after a certain date the official answers could be posted on a site.... total profit for the school.. .and less of a headache for the quiz setters.
What do others think ... but more importantly what does the school think?

[Oldnathan]

Kev (CC. Alibobs) - This is clearly a case of us both having our own standpoint and we are both going to stick to it so I�ll respect your views and leave it alone. I do think though, that if you took your argument to its logical conclusion and �dumbed down� the quiz (like GCSEs!) so that everyone can complete it, we may as well just skip the quiz part and all give the School a pound each. They could then draw a name out a hat for the winner.

Like I said I can�t speak for the school. I did get an e-mail from Mike Platt and if anything he sounded more gloomy about this answer sharing business than the quiz setter. But he�s a polite and diplomatic man. I�ve no doubt that if you approached him in the manner you have here; you�d get a sympathetic ear. He did also correctly point out that if he makes a fuss about people using this website then he will only serve to publicise it use and make matters worse. So I�d better shut up about it too eh?

I�ve got to be honest Kev. My real beef isn�t with you or Alibobs (who also had the guts to come back at me � thank you both for the debate) who have posted the odd clue that�s been driving you nuts. But have you not seen the people who have posted whole chunks of the quiz in one go? You�ve got to agree that this isn�t within the spirit of what is intended even if it isn�t against any rules.

[tanmarsh]

Are you now suggesting that GCSEs are dumbed down so that everyone can pass? What is that flippant comment supposed to mean? Perhaps Mike Platt or Julie Hollis would be interested in your comments on the dumbing down of GCSEs, we can only assume from the fact you need to ask no one for any help that you have bucket loads of them. As a parent of a student who has studied long and hard to gain GCSEs I find your remarks once again offensive.

[Oldnathan]

Nah it was just a joke. Meant to be at the expense of those people who claim that GCSEs are being dumbed down. My daughter has just come through them too and I know how hard she worked for them.

I refuse to get into a slanging match with you. I even said sorry on your other thread. I'm still sorry. I'm still thick and I still won't get all the answers right because I never do.

[tanmarsh]

Old Nathan

I do not wish to get in to a slanging match with you and accept your apology, as you have pointed out it takes a person with nerves of steel to not look at the answers when directed at this site.

I understand where you are coming from, but do find it difficult to believe that the quiz master does not actually want people to get the questions right, some of the answers posted I would infact disagree with but I will keep my own counsel on that.

Like yourself I much prefer to try to do the bulk of the quiz of my own accord but the temptation does get a bit much, how do people with no internet access go on, should I be the fortunate winner of a cash prize then I will donate it back to the school as I have had hours of pleasure in completing the quiz, and would quite happily still buy one with no prize offered.

I do take on board your comments about it becoming too easy if everyone uses it, but how you would overcome that is anyones guess.

[Oldnathan]

Thanks tanmarsh. If I'm being honest I was way over the top with my initial post and it's bothered me ever since.

When I started to have to address people as individuals a rather cold sense of shame crept over me - which is a bit ironic if you look at my original message.

Blanket apology to you all (look at me thinking that I'm addressing the nation!) but I do stand by my point. Only rather more sheepishly than I first did. I'll get me coat...