sodemall - I am certain you will have the last word on this thread - you usually do. However, the whole purpose of asking questions here is in th name of the site - AnswerBank. Do you criticise everyone who asks a quiz or puzzle question in these threads. If so, you must be kept extremely busy. Just back off with your stupid (yes stupid) remarks. Grandad was quite entitled to ask a valid question and you were completely out of order in possibly destroying faith in Answerbank. The Macmillan Quiz rules do NOT stipulate that contestants must not research their answers. And neither should you . . . .