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BigDave- Really want to believe you yet nervous that my name /email address may slip into the wrong hands ( not yours) as there are some seriously unbalanced individuals on here AB. So you fill in the contact details on your page + no one else can see them?! Sorry Dave for sounding non trusting, yet, once bitten twice shy. Have some great friends via a gardening website yet with that was certain that no one else had my details as there was a facility to send a private message on there. Pbeach- have finished the cyrptic crossword now + finished the GK's all by self. Would not want to look at a whole grid of answers- that is like cheating in an exam. Like to stretch brain. Big hugs to you all, Bea :-)