Hi,Harrowden, I found the first one in "The Little Puffin...Nursery songs and rhymes" a book I' ve had for forty years. The second one I found on a marvellous site which will help you with more answers. Google "list of nursery rhymes" then click on "Nursery Rhymes lyrics,origins and history". There you'll find a list of rhymes-scroll to the bottom of that list then click on "Lost Lyrics of children's nursery rhymes" and you'll get another long list- that's where I found the second one. Sorry I've never learned to cut and paste but I hope this will help.. Hope your great-granddaughter enjoys the rhyme- do young parents still play "this little piggy"etc?