What, no Higgs Bosun yet found.

[rov1100]

Still no Higgs Bosun after all these experiments with the LHC. Could all these scientists be wrong in their prediction? They got it wrong about global cooling and whose to say global warming will go the same way.

[rojash]

bosun - boatswain: a petty officer on a merchant ship who controls the work of other seamen.

[rov1100]

Alright clever cloggs, Boson

[jomifl]

well nobody has found a god particle yet and people have been looking for thousands of years. Perhaps the LHC boys will do better.

[beso]

That is the lamest attempt ever to justify climate change denial.

Global cooling was suggested by a small number of scientists for investigation based solely on the fact that ice ages occur in regular cycles and the next cool phase was due give or take a few centuries. Deniers love to trot it out but it is also a lame argument.

Indeed those who say the current warming is "just a natural cycle" would be best avoiding mentioning global cooling at all because we aught to be be moving into a cool phase by that notion yet the planet is definitely heating. Same with "its all due to sun cycles". The current phase of that cycle should be cooling.

[beso]

The Higgs Boson is predicted by the Standard Model but finding one is a matter of probabilities. At the energy levels of existing equipment and the level currently reached by the LHC, that probability is very very small. It is hoped that the probability will become reasonably high when the LHC is eventually brought to full power.

However the expected energy of the Higgs is a range of values. If it is at the high end of the range than the probability will still be quite low.

If one is created in a collision it will be one of many thousands of particles reaching the detectors in that run alone. A vast amount of data is generated and it takes a lot of work to sift through it for likely candidates.

Even then if the signature matching a Higgs boson is found the confidence of it actually being a Higgs is still a matter of probability. Such is the nature of Quantum Mechanics.

Personally, like a lot of scientists, I find the reference to the Higgs Boson as "The God Particle" quite inane and pointless.

[LazyGun]

It makes me laugh, all this jeering by those of lets say a more religious outlook on life. They forget that we have only been searching for such things as the Higgs-Boson for a few decades, much of that time with equipment insufficient to create the conditions needed - but you could just as well ask where the empirical evidence for "God" is after a few thousand!. :)

[beso]

Not only have the God-ists failed to show a shred of empirical evidence, their entire basis for the existence of God is built on what is written in a book about how God had previously manifested directly to humans in a tangible way even though He no longer does so.

It is like a physicist writing in their diary that a Higgs boson had revealed itself to them and expecting the world to accept that as complete evidence for its existence.

Though that is actually being generous. The Higgs boson is backed by a theoretical premise that suggests its presence because it is the simplest known explanation to complete the model that explains all known observations about reality.

The God hypothesis is littered with incongruencies that starkly conflict not only with with observation but within its own postulates.

[jomifl]

'god particle' as in particle or evidence of a god or gods.

[mike11111]

Warming? Cooling? I don't know either way. What I have been told, though, is it's bloody hot in hell!

[mike11111]

Fancy wasting your time typing out all that just to counter an obvious wind-up.
"The fool hath said in his heart..."

[YT52]

^ Very well said.

[YT52]

My comment was to birdie, not you mike

[mike11111]

Quelle surprise!

[YT52]

Keep it in religion & spirituality mike, not Science.

[mike11111]

Et tu, Brute!
By the way, I did not introduce religion into this thread, nor did I make anything other than a light-hearted comment. This was obviously too much for certain repressed females with a one-track mind whose only response to any statement with which they disagree is to tell them to, "Grow up".

[YT52]

That's not sexist......