elctronics simulation

[Thunderchild]

so not having the money and time for real building and testing i need a free (remember no money) simulation program for analog and digital circuits with no limitations. please don't tell me to google it as i have and am spending some days and wasting a lot of time with stupid little programs dome by university students or programs marked as freeware that need registration to be of real use

Thanks

[Thunderchild]

i have a job but software producers seem to forget us underpaid guys in S Italy with our low wages that don't go very far especially if one is paying � 2000 for a private course because the public scholl taught me nothing and 2300 � for a car so u go firgure where i get the money from also asuming that if i design anything worth making i need money for components !

what annoys me is very simple programs being glorified when they r just a little past time for the auther and a maze for me not to mention programs marked freeware that realu u have to pay for to unlock even basic features not to mention not having time to spend days wading thru google results.

[ll_billym]

From your above question / rant one would assume that when you start producing electronic goods you will give them away free to anyone who wants one.

I think not.

People who write software like money as well.  Yes, many excellent progams are written and given away completely free but the author(s) are under no obligation to do this.  I don't think you have a right to expect something for nothing.  Sorry.

[Thunderchild]

listen i am not demanding someone give me a free program but to google for a free program (of whatever nature) find one (marked freeware) download it (on a very unstable 56 K conection that makes 28 at best) install it just get the idea of it and how good it is then find that this "freeware" program needs paying registration for. so that is no longer freeware and to label it as such is pure publicity abuse !

for example a nice program called electronics work bench exists and if i go to their site they PLAINLY state the cost and not say how nice u can down load this freeware program only to fing u pay for it cause it takes time and connection bandwidth to download something.

my main complaints is the fact that by using these little tricks and having ones link put on other sites that all producers do make up for quiite a confusing mze of results that all lead to the same program MARKED AS FREEWARE downloaded as freeware only to find that if i want to put mor than two components on the diagram i have to increase the page size and to do this i have to register the so called freeware program. a beter description is shareware OR TRIAL or even CUT DOWN TRIAL VERSION

is the point clesr no and for ur info when i do produce an electronic device i won't expect to build my dream house on the earnings of the sale of 10 items !