spaceship sightings

[wendilla]

We are hearing about all this sightings in Wales and other parts .Why is it that when there is a large International Space Station circling the earth a few times in one day that it has not picked up any sightings.Or is it that they are not allowed to report anything.

[naomi24]

I wondered about that too, wendilla. I also wonder why the photographs that people take of these things can't be enhanced to show a clearer picture.

[wendilla]

http://www.spaceweather.com/
yes true .here is a link if you are interested and you can get further links from there such as the times that the ISS goes over whatever country you are in. There has been some super sightings over England.Should be more in a couple of weeks as the sightings at the minute are approx 3 and 4 am

[naomi24]

Thanks Wendilla. I'll have a look at that.

I wonder if anyone can explain why the pictures can't be enhanced?

[jake-the-peg]

Let's assume for a moment that this is the case.

The ISS is about 350 km above the Earth If you image a sphere at that height it would cover 568 million square kilometers.

The ISS is pretty small compared to that sort of space

[Kaienana]

Google Earth shows individual sheep on land in Wales, where I used to live. There are boats, cars, 'planes, all visible on photos taken from satelites. These satelites are in continues orbit.
If there was something out there it could be imaged clearly........ If, that is, the MOD wanted it to be !

[wendilla]

Thanks for your reply yes I can understand that part .It's just the fact that ISS can give us pictures that they take of earth seems weird that if there was anything floating about it would pick it up on picture. I guess we will never understand fully .I am just an amateur on this subject.I just like to follow all the spaceshuttle landings and take offs from the NASA TV and watch for ISS going over here.

[jake-the-peg]

Er no

Actually those close up pictures on google earth come from planes not satellites although spy satellites are pretty good.

remember too those pictures are not in real time you can only be photographing one point at a time and you have to know where to be looking.

Imagine tI took a particular airliner and painted it red and asked you to photograph it from a satellite in flight when you don't know where it will be or when it will be flying and you may start to get a bit of an idea

[naomi24]

So, does anyone know why the pictures people take of these things can't be enhanced to produce a clearer image?

[wendilla]

Yes Jake-the -peg I understand that a bit but I think Google Earth is quite away behind with there images as last time I looked my old car was still on the drive.I have not put Google Eath in this pc but will have a look later.

[Gromit]

You are trying to take a picture of a very small object. The fact that it is reflecting light and is on a background of the dark of space makes it easily spotable, but the facr remains, it is very small. It would be like standing on a beach, and trying to focus and zoom in to a grain of sand.

But, you can observe and take photos of the ISS if you have the right equipment. Someone has here.

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http: //mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/satcom_transits /bwlarge.jpg&imgrefurl=http://mysite.wanadoo-m embers.co.uk/satcom_transits/March2005.html&h= 290&w=324&sz=13&hl=en&start=21&tbnid=o93JjBbQP JRBFM:&tbnh=106&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3DIS S%2Bfrom%2Bearth%26start%3D18%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp %3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

[wendilla]

Thanks Gromit for the info.Always nice to learn and see a litlle bit more. I'M afraid my only equipment to see ISS is the naked eye just fasinating to see it go over.

[jake-the-peg]

I agree I think such images are available from satellites just not on Google Earth.

The challenge isn't so much taking the picture as knowing where to look!

As for improving pictures well frankly the short answer is nobody's seriously going to spend a lot of time and trouble and money investigating sightings of UFOs in Wales.

When the MOD released their "X-files" they consisted of a huge pile of reports with "No further action" stamped on them

[wendilla]

Now Jake-the-peg you have gone back to my question on here ABOUT NOT ANYTHING BEEN REPORTED when you state the MOD took no further action on there reports. I WONDER WHY.Just a thought.

[chakka35]

naomi, you can't very well enhance a picture if the detail isn't there in the first place. These pictures are often taken by amateurs, hand-held because of the immediacy and with a lot of camera shake.
The fakes are deliberately kept vague and fuzzy so that the gullible don't see the hub-cap or dustbin lid or whatever has been used.
Until someone produces convincing evidence that these sightings are Unidentified only by some while clearly Identifiable by others, there is little point in wasting expensive resources on them.

[naomi24]

Hello Chakka, How will convincing evidence, or otherwise, ever be produced if we don't investigate them to the best of our ability? Let's see the lid, if indeed the lid is there, and then we can put the whole bin out for the dustcart to haul away.

[mibn2cweus]

Why are the UFO's hiding? Who do they think they are . . . God?

[naomi24]

Could well be.

[mibn2cweus]

. . . just like old times . . . tainnit?

[naomi24]

And possibly even older!

[teag1rl]

The recent welsh sightings that made headlines were found to be lanterns (that bit didn't make the headlines)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7471724.stm