the queen

[squirelpoo]

could someone please confirm what "ER" stands for, when its associated with the queen.

[dzug]

Elizabeth Regina

Regina is latin for queen

[Bluerose]

er, really?

[dzug]

Yep really

[squirelpoo]

thanks for the info, but where does the surname rex come into it, or has there never been a rex surname,

[Sammy Snake]

Who mentioned Rex?

[shaneystar2]

Rex =KIng ..Regina =Queen

[squirelpoo]

sammy snake, i was told this ages ago, just want to know for sure, thanks for your intrest

[jno]

it's not strictly a surname - as everyone says, just Latin for king/queen. (Their surname is Windsor.) If you see a postbox with GVIR on it, it's GR for George Rex and the VI is 6, so King George the 6th. Ditto EIIR. I'm not sure why Latin exactly, probably just a hangover from official documents' style in the MIddle Ages.

[kempie]

Windsor is not strictly a surname of the Royal Family either; it is an official designation, as in Royal House of Windsor.

In 1917 the Royal House and Family was renamed Windsor from the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, by an Order-in-Council of King George V.

The Order referred to male-line descendants of Queen Victoria but not necessarily to female descendants. In 1952 Queen Elizabeth II ended confusion over the dynastic name when she declared to the Privy Council her �Will and Pleasure that I and My children shall be styled and known as the House and Family of Windsor, and that my descendants who marry and their descendants, shall bear the name of Windsor.�

In 1960 The Queen issued another Order-in-Council, confirming that she and her four children will be known as the House and Family of Windsor, and that her other male-line descendants (except those who are "HRH" and a Prince or Princess) will take the name "Mountbatten-Windsor".

[shammydodger]

Kempie

So, if the surname of (for example) Prince William isn't Windsor, what is it? Under what name is he registered in the birth index?

[shammydodger]

Actually, just done a search and I can tell you myself. He is registered under the name

William Arthur P. L. Windsor

If I remember correctly, the "P. L." stands for Philip Louis. So Windsor it is. Official.

[kempie]

Yes. Official. He bears the name with which he is designated, which happens to be Windsor. However that is not the family surname.

A better example to show the disparity is that of Lady Louise Alice Elizabeth Mary Mountbatten-Windsor, daughter of HRH The Prince Edward.

Same family, different name.

[shammydodger]

In which case it is his surname. Names change. It changed to Windsor from whatever it was that you said it was. The fact that his forebears had/have a different surname is immaterial. A comparable example is when 2 peole marry and combine their surnames into a double-barrelled composite. Your argument would be that a child of the union is actually of the family name applying to the fathe,, whereas his name is actually that he is given on his birth certificate. i.e. the composite name. Surnames are no different to Christian names, in that respect, it is merely the perception that is different.

[kempie]

As I have said all along, Windsor is not the surname of the Royal Family. It is one of the names used, as is Mountbatten-Windsor.

However they are all part of the House of Windsor.

[Compostella]

Windsor Davis

[ianess]

E11R only applies in England.
Our monarch is only the first Queen Elizabeth of the UK.
Same reason applies to the ships QE2 and QM2.......only slightly technical , but offence is sometimes taken when everyone has to comply with the English version of history.