where can 2 muslim women go on holiday?

[pdust]

Me and a mate are thinking of going on holiday for a week or so but cant think where to go. We are both married and muslim so don't want any partying resorts or anywhere renowned for being 'pick up' places. We aren't bothered about beaches and arent too bothered about the weather though i dont mean the north pole, so long as its anywhere between nice and scorching we arent fussy. We would like somewhere nice with things to see, places to visit etc. We would prefer somewhere that has a good muslim population as that would be more relaxing for both of us. Iraq and Iran are out as I've plans in the pipeline to visit them in the near future and would rather have my first visit there with my husband.

I've put this here rather than in travel cos from what im told hardly anyone looks in there lol

[naomi24]

I don't reside in the woodwork - and since Pixi says she's not bothered about beaches and would prefer a city, the question of paddling or swimming in the sea doesn't apply. Wherever she goes, I presume she'll be staying at a hotel where no doubt there will be lots of westerners who are all quite used to seeing Muslim women in headscarves so I can't really see her concern.

[jomifl]

Chuck, I was attepting to draw attention humourosly to an interesting issue without labouring the point too heavily. If Pdust was to go to a truly muslim country for a holiday with her female friend, she would most likely be locked up for not being escorted by a male member of her family. It seem she only needs to wear the muslim gear to make some kind of point. If she was dressed in modest western clothing in a non muslim country she would not be noticed. By wearing muslim clothing she is just drawing attention to herself which is the opposite of what muslim clothing is supposed to do.

[naomi24]

Pixi has said she doesn't want to go to partying resorts or anywhere renowned for being 'pick up' places, and since they are renowned, she already knows the places she'd rather avoid. She has also said she prefers a city. Most cities these days are very cosmopolitan, so whether she goes to New York, Marrakech, or Madrid, it's doubtful she'll attract any attention whatsoever because anyone she comes across will be quite familiar with the sight of a Muslim woman and won't give a hoot about her headscarf, or whether or not she visits the local mosque, so I really don't understand why she should feel uncomfortable in any of them or why her religion is a consideration at all in this instance. It's just a fuss over nothing.

[237SJ]

<< If Pdust was to go to a truely muslim country for a holiday with her female friend, she would most likely be locked up for not being escorted by a male member of her family>> What cobblers! LOL

[pdust]

@ jom... it has a bit to do with not wanting any crap, i can get enough of that on buses, shopping, in town etc in our lovely country and it also has to do with the fact that while i don't give a flying fig who gets off their head on holiday, pukes in the street, runs round with their arses or worse out, or shags on the beach i would rather not see it, muslimah or not :) I wrote muslim women as thats what we are and people tend to skim posts and give answers you dont want..... i have posted time and time again in food asking for recipes and stating please no pork or fish and what do i get? yep thats right .... i knew if i just put our requirements someone would not 'see them' i knew if i wrote muslim it would be like a flashing beacon to all (like the word muslim and islam always are on here) and no one would overlook it :D

hi naomi yes its me.... and i actually said more relaxed rather than comfortable in the OP..... I have been harassed by Fosters heads in england i dont wanna be going on holiday and getting it.... tbh if i wanted a western culture holiday i would just go to blackpool ;)

@ anlyn... was that supposed to be comical? Gimme your email addy if you want i can send you some cracking muslim jokes... ;)

@beso... oh you seem to 'know' a lot about the desires of muslim men dont ya.... care to share how you know about that? also with us they wouldnt be catching a glimpse of anything other than face hands and feet... you come out with some crap mate but that was one of your more arseholey posts if ever i saw one :)

[pdust]

what makes you think i would like people not to know im muslim jom?

oh ps naomi... i didnt revert when i married my husband, i reverted a while after...

hi boxy... thanks for that :) x

[joko]

try trailfinders

i think they cater for people who want to sight-see etc, rather than typical resorts

[CreamSoda]

Why does it have to have a good Muslim population? Surely holidays are about expereincing new people and new things. Malta is great, blue water and friendly people.

[naomi24]

Hi Pixi, I thought it was you. :o)

In a major city, where you, as a tourist, will be sightseeing, I honestly don't think anyone will care what you're wearing on your head. Blackpool they ain't!

[boxtops]

237, it's not cobblers that pixi wouldn't be able to go out on her own if she was in a country like Saudi. My friends who live in Jeddah are escorted around the city by chauffeurs if they want to visit friends - they are not allowed out in the street unescorted (but that's another story about culture, not faith).

Secondly, my understanding is that pixi and her friend want to go somewhere where the Muslim faith is recognised and practised openly - she's a practising muslimah so will want to pray, a country therefore where mosques accepting women are readily available is more attractive than (say) Malta, which is very interesting to visit but there is one tiny mosque for the whole island.

I begin to wonder sometimes if some posters (by no means all, I hasten to add) actually know any Muslim people first hand, when comments like this are bandied about on a thread with a question which to me is not an exceptional, but sensible, in pixi's circumstances.

[cazzz1975]

because its pdusts's holiday, its her preference to go where she wants to.

[naomi24]

Pixi, do you mean 'converted'? You weren't Muslim at any time before your marriage, were you?

[237SJ]

Boxy, he said a true muslim country. Malaysia, Indonesia, Dubai - all muslim countries and perfectly ok for women to walk around on their own without men. Saudi is one of the few examples. I`m "blacking up" and going there tomorrow (for my sins). Even there, I`ve been in a taxi down to the shops with other girls and no problems at all.

[pdust]

@ answer removed (lol) aww shame i missed that.... i bet it was really enlightening

chuck ;) <<< ps dont tell my husband i just winked at ya, you never know what might happen *Guffawsnort*

jom "If Pdust was to go to a truly muslim country for a holiday with her female friend, she would most likely be locked up for not being escorted by a male member of her family" i cannot begin to tell you how much that has made me laugh..... and as for this... "By wearing muslim clothing she is just drawing attention to herself which is the opposite of what muslim clothing is supposed to do" I am not drawing attention to myself.. if people choose to think that the dress of a muslim women needs their stare comment or whatever than it is their own doing and choice and nothing ive done....

I honestly think some people on here (not just ones who have posted either) need to have a little idea about things before they wang their tenpennoth in...

[barney15c]

Back on Track... A bit far away maybe somewhere to consider in the future..... Malaysia, predominantly muslim and some beautiful scenery from what a work mate who hails from there says. Kuala Lumpar is a modern city with plenty of shopping opportunities and culture. Just a thought!

[boxtops]

Fair enough 237, I get your point - have a good time!

[237SJ]

Yes, Malaysia gorgeous. I`m off on my hols to Langkawi next month.
Last night I went out with a friend who recently came back from Oman and loved it. From there she went to Zanzibar which shares a very common culture with Oman. Zanzibar`s a bit beachy for the OP though.

[boxtops]

No, it's revert - the concept is that everyone is born Muslim, then others may choose other faiths, so when people "convert" the belief is that they are going back to the original faith they were born into (whether they knew it, or now)

[237SJ]

Thanks boxy - a good time and Saudi are contradictions in terms though :-) (at least I don`t have to worry about what to wear)

[boxtops]

Exactly - although the women I met there had the most fabulous hairstyles and Parisian suits on under their hijab, I'm afraid I was more comfortable - more like leggings and the loose Donald Duck t-shirt.. :-(