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Should we have more power over our politicians?

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Rohan56 | 14:51 Sun 03rd Jun 2012 | Society & Culture
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They lie, they steal and pretty much run riot and we as the people don't be able to do a damned thing about them.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if they wasn't up to shape we could replace them even with politicians from other countries until we find the ones that are honest and who actually listen to what we say and do what we tell them to?
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What country has politicians who aren't self-serving?
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Saudi Arabia i heard.
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Or maybe it was Kuwait?
It was definitely somewhere in the middle east where they share the wealth, listen to the people and everyone was happy
Eerm you can replace them. There are things called elections. You could even (shock horror) try to become an MP yourself
Share the wealth? Cloudcocoland, do you mean
How about standing for election yourself Rohan?
<<It was definitely somewhere in the middle east where they share the wealth, listen to the people and everyone was happy>>

Ah you mean the place where they have foreigners with no rights in to do all the work at next to no pay

Funny definition of everyone
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Dzug which country is that or are you talking about every country in the middle east?

I wish maidup, unfortunately i know nothing of politics though i would be the first politician to be 100% for the people.

Sandy which country was it where the king got everyone a bentley? It may have been brunei as i think it was the sultan of brunei
perhaps if everyone voted, we would have!
I think you miss the point

Politicians aren't there as our butlers to do what we tell them to do

If politicians did what people wanted to do we'd be where Greece is today in no time flat!

If individual decisions were left to the country no person would have responsibility, nobody would be answerable and the country would just chase instant gratification like a bunch of teenagers at a free bar.

Instead we elect politicians to govern and to be accountable for that

You might not like David Cameron or Gordon Brown or whoever is next but we can hold them responsible and sack them if they don't deliver an overal l success.

There are surprisingly few countries in the world where that is possible and it should be of great pride to us that we were one of the first where that was possible.

Not only that but in general our politicians are pretty honest in comparison to most a short trip to say Zimbawe or Russia or Venuzuela or China should convince you of that.
I thought that's what elections are for, to remove failing (or cheating) politicians.
When the coalition came to power they promised to put in place a process to allow an MP's voters to have the MP removed. This could be done should a sufficient number of voters sign an online e-petition. They have back-tracked on this promise, and amended it to where, if sufficient voters sign the e-petition, their demands will instead be considered by all the other MPs in the Commons. The process is still in the pipeline.
They may not be butlers but they are supposed to be representatives. If they don't find out what the people they represent want and argue the case for it then that isn't representative democracy. That is just electing someone to lord it over you for the next period.

No; elections are not an answer to the need to replace a representative. If one can not force a vote of no confidence at any time but have to wait until the government decides on an election, then the requirement to replace has not been met.

If people take control and get it wrong to start with, then that's part of the learning process. A people won't learn if no one allows them to drive.

It is a garbage mockery of democracy we have at present as it is as far as they need to go to keep the public from demanding a say. No idea how many centuries will pass before it can be sorted.
OG, they can't represent everyone. If you want cheaper bananas and I want more expensive ones, we can't both get what we want. All politicians can do is issue manifestos stating their banana positions and leave us to vote for them. If I am outvoted and a banana-price-cutter is elected, I just have to live with it.
Yes, but if the cost of those bananas includes an all expenses paid trip,to far flung places with a friend riding for free I'd rather eat apples.

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