Truthabounds

[locusts]

truthabounds . it seen as to me, they(nonbelievers) saying we are brainwashed ,with our faith and without thinking ability., this is not true.
I wish to cleanse my mind with clean water and then see the road ahead. ( those nonbelievers) if these nonbelievers are still living in stagnante water. They will not that the sense of it. Yes there are many mysteries and unknown questions to be answered within the good book, he (god). But I do believe in one thing that the creator is Omniscient ? And many people like me also believe this to. kjv..The quotation from Danel 12 1.5 .so all things will not be revealed until the end of days.? And with all their knit picking and disbelief is understandable.

[locusts]

wildwood
locust, do you only believe in one specific god, or do you respect all gods? Could you point me to some tangible proof that your god exists?

locusts yes I believe in one god. I would try to relay my way thinking. 1 first from the scientific pointed view there had to be designer for the universe .is so so precise in their order and arrangement . 2 if you want to use the big bang theory this could be possible also because it would take the designer to calls a big bang it does not just happen. 3 if you realistically think about a House it does not automatically appear . Two starts, it took the designer and the builders to bring this house to life.

[naomi24]

Locusts, But how do you know who the designer was? Because someone who cannot possibly know any more than you told you so? What if it was someone else - someone you've never heard of?

[lcg]

maybe when you can discuss your beliefs in a logical, rational way goodlife....us plebs will listen to you. at present, your copy and paste rhetoric is off putting, perhaps we would understand more if you transcended your written gospel and spoke from your heart instead. but as you can't - it gets very boring, very quickly (and not to mention uninspiring). don't worry, you are among good company - i haven't met a religious nutter yet that doesn't need the text smack bang in front of their face.

[nescio]

locusts,
the scientific viewpoint is that NO designer is necessary for the universe

[DTCwordfan]

Is goodlife blind? I attached his JW site - or is that one of the three denials a la Peter?

[naomi24]

DT, Apparently not. From him at 9.10 this morning.

//I am not blind.//

Maybe he's just confused. ;o)

[DTCwordfan]

Maybe his 5th paragraph was covered in Tippex, naomi. One is supposed to be forgiving.

[naomi24]

:o)

[locusts]

nomi24
Truthabounds,
I don’t know why you’re telling Locusts to read 2 Timothy 3 v 16 & 17. If you can’t give a straight answer to a question about honesty, here …. it's clearly been of little benefit to you.
Maidup, ‘Locusts’ is the username of the OP.
locusts
nomi24 this woman reminds me of a passage from Matthew 23/ 29.33.34 are Lord Jesus Christ showed up the people for what they really was offspring vipers . You can see Jesus had problems with its critics in his day.

[naomi24]

locusts, I suggest you read those verses again, because they don't refer to the 'people' - they refer to the teachers and the law-makers. Take note.

[vascop]

Locusts et al. - Read the book "The Blind Watchmaker" by Richard Dawkins, which explains why Intelligent Design is a non-starter.

[seadogg]

Come, come vascop. This work is based on logic and scientific method which is an anathema to our doctrinaire friends.

[boxtops]

"are Lord Jesus Christ showed up the people for what they really was offspring vipers . "

That doesn't make any sense at all.

[DTCwordfan]

I would suggest Adams "Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy" for them.

[DTCwordfan]

And I have two vipers on mein Audi.....

what rubbish you have witten and not exactly accepting of your fellow (wo)man is it - to try and persuade through (logical and original) reasoning, locusts

[seadogg]

I'd drink to that DT (if allowed) and in a different vein, "Abou Ben Adhem" by Leigh Hunt.

[naomi24]

Locusts doesn't understand the biblical verses he quoted, so there's little hope of him understanding 'The Blind Watchmaker' - or anything else offered here. Isn’t it sad? – and that’s not sarcasm - I genuinely mean it.

[locusts]

Locusts I think I have try to answer // openly
naomi24 //Yes there is – 6 days [the time taken by God to create the world]. Now in an effort to justify that very clear information, it’s been said that God’s ‘day’ is not the same as man’s day,
Locusts true God's time. Is not the same as man's.
naomi 24 so does that mean that every time ’40 days’, for example, is mentioned in the bible – as it often is - that must automatically translate into thousands of years? And put it in
Locusts Not necessarily //for instance // Jeremiah exile to last 70 years //for human time periods//Jeremiah // would not see the fulfilment to write it down. //Jesus in death for three days // this is in human time.//for his disciples had seen him //Jonah in the belly of the well for three days// if it was a longer time.// He would've been dead //there are many more explanation if you look for them.
naomi24 If not, how do you differentiate // I think I have answer you.
–Locusts by analysing the Scriptures.//and many hours of study
naomi or are you simply desperate to make the ever-shrinking nonsense that is ancient superstition fit modern science? //
Locusts not at all // modern science //archaeology // most //hold up religious beliefs .// I think for my self


Naomi24 Thu 03 Jan 2013
Locusts // doesn't under stand biblical verses he quoted, so there's little hope of him understanding
'The Blind Watchmaker' - or anything else offered here. Isn’t it sad? – and that’s not sarcasm - I genuinely mean Blind Watchmaker, by Richard Dawkins (High Quality)

The blind watchmaker was a very interesting program illustrations and scientific truths// were very good and the way he tried to demonstrate over the course of time had to come in to existence.// OK // Evolution has come to it s alternate goal // man and therefore man has dominated the earth //I am no expert but //watching this film //there was several flow s in his argument // he all so repeated it had to have a designer.//OK where did the dinosaurs go// he was saying about the dinosaurs//where did they go //or died out. Many many animals have over the course of time and not died out//he was talking about the D:N:A and there was a time this argument break down // yes if it does break down and possibly it does at times and you are blind //for instance// when reproducing//child blind //not necessarily //.and many moor flaws. But I did watch with and open mine

Locusts A True watchman will stay at is post and keep a wake //per pad for any problem and you think I am blind // but there is those how are blind// how leads the blind // Jesus you s a good
comparison Mt-15-14 – 1.Peter 2-16
God Is Good , why because he has give you freedom of mine, He did to put the gun in your hand (did he.
that is good why because he has giving you freedom of mind and the freedom, is to love him with all your hart and mind. Obviously there are restrictions in all human society we have restrictions and rules and regulations and one regulation is that we shell not kill. So if a man puts a gun in his hand and uses it that is his problem not God's because the freedom God has giving him .So don't blame God, for what man does ore the freedom you have dean give
I think Jesus gave you answer in in the bible at revelation 12.12 .
12:01 Wed 26th Dec 2012 Report



naomi24
locusts, //I think Jesus gave you answer in in the bible at revelation 12.12 .//

Just one snag there. Jesus didn't say it.
Locusts Then you say// he didn't// I think you've made a big mistake in your comments because if you read from revelations kj- jb 1-5- 9 you'll find that this was giving to Jesus from god by inspiration to be writing down for our benefits.

[beso]

Religion is not brain-washing but brain-muddying.

The believers are in the stagnant water. Their core beliefs are thousands of years old. The last fresh input they had was when the New Testament contradicted the "eternal truths" of the Old testament with new supposedly eternal truths.

[beso]

Truthabounds //For example as a teenager I was fearful of hellfire. Having been taught from an early age that those who are wicked go to burn in hell, every time I did something I knew I shouldn’t have it worried me. It was only when I was in my late 20s and began to study the scriptures in earnest that I saw things in a different light. //

Here we see exactly how religion has enforced compliance for thousands of years. Terrify the children while they are too young to think for themselves about what is real then offer them sanctuary in the church.