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No Nebulisers On The Nhs
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Article about housing on Newsnight, showed a woman whose 7 year old son was having an asthma attack and his inhaler was ineffective. She tried to get him to the hospital to be put on a nebuliser, but he died on the way.
I understand the NHS has stopped supplying nebulisers and patients have to buy their own, as I did recently, after my GP told me they will only supply the nebules but not the machine.
This cost this little boy his life.
I wonder how many more people die because they can't afford a nebuliser?
A decent one costs about £100, yet getting an ambulance to get to hospital to use one costs at least £500.
The economics of the madhouse and so inhumane.
Punishing poverty.
Isn't this disgraceful?
I understand the NHS has stopped supplying nebulisers and patients have to buy their own, as I did recently, after my GP told me they will only supply the nebules but not the machine.
This cost this little boy his life.
I wonder how many more people die because they can't afford a nebuliser?
A decent one costs about £100, yet getting an ambulance to get to hospital to use one costs at least £500.
The economics of the madhouse and so inhumane.
Punishing poverty.
Isn't this disgraceful?
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I didn't see the programme but a child having a severe asthma attack qualifies as either 'Category 1' or 'Category 2' for ambulance response times. So, rather than trying to get the child to a nebuliser (in hospital), the correct approach would be to get a nebuliser to the child (since paramedics carry nebulisers in their vehicles). So was an ambulance called?
Even if parents have a nebuliser in their house or car it doesn't help much if the child has an asthma attack at school. So the policy of taking a nebuiliser to where the child is actually makes a great deal of sense.
(I write as someone who was in charge of first aid in a secondary school. I've had to deal with countless asthma attacks, sometimes with several on the same day. The decision about whether to call an ambulance or not was always tricky).
Even if parents have a nebuliser in their house or car it doesn't help much if the child has an asthma attack at school. So the policy of taking a nebuiliser to where the child is actually makes a great deal of sense.
(I write as someone who was in charge of first aid in a secondary school. I've had to deal with countless asthma attacks, sometimes with several on the same day. The decision about whether to call an ambulance or not was always tricky).
>>> Would hate to think that people who needed one were denied a nebuliser, but they're not, are they?
V_E:
I didn't see the programme Theland is referring to but, as I understand it, the suggestion is that the child's mother was unable to afford a nebuliser and her local NHS wouldn't provide one. So, in that sense, the family was 'denied' a nebuliser.
(As I've pointed out above though, having a nebuliser in a child's home won't help much if they have a severe asthma attack when they're at school or, as they might well be when they become teenagers, many miles from home with their mates).
V_E:
I didn't see the programme Theland is referring to but, as I understand it, the suggestion is that the child's mother was unable to afford a nebuliser and her local NHS wouldn't provide one. So, in that sense, the family was 'denied' a nebuliser.
(As I've pointed out above though, having a nebuliser in a child's home won't help much if they have a severe asthma attack when they're at school or, as they might well be when they become teenagers, many miles from home with their mates).
^^^ I can't find a relevant NHS link that deals specifically with nebulisers for asthma but this is from a page about bronchiectasis:
" . . . while the medications used with a nebuliser can be provided on prescription, the nebuliser device itself isn't always available on the NHS.
In some areas, a local respiratory service may provide the device without charge, but if this isn't an option, you may have to pay for a device".
That would seem to go some way to explaining (or, at least, recognising) local differences in policy.
" . . . while the medications used with a nebuliser can be provided on prescription, the nebuliser device itself isn't always available on the NHS.
In some areas, a local respiratory service may provide the device without charge, but if this isn't an option, you may have to pay for a device".
That would seem to go some way to explaining (or, at least, recognising) local differences in policy.
^^^ Immigration strongly benefits the UK economy, LadyCG:
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We need MORE, not less.
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We need MORE, not less.
Read the link, LadyCG.
Most immigrants are of working age (and want to work). They therefore pay the taxes that help to support our rapidly-aging population.
The proportion of unemployed immigrants is far lower than that of our native population, so they make far fewer demands upon work-related benefits. They also tend to be younger and fitter than the average Brit, so they're more likely to contribute financially to the economy than to make demands upon it.
Most immigrants are of working age (and want to work). They therefore pay the taxes that help to support our rapidly-aging population.
The proportion of unemployed immigrants is far lower than that of our native population, so they make far fewer demands upon work-related benefits. They also tend to be younger and fitter than the average Brit, so they're more likely to contribute financially to the economy than to make demands upon it.
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