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The Unemplyed.
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How would YOU deal with the Unemplyed?
How would you coerce them into jobs?
(Oh hang on. Where are the jobs?)
Part time. Zero hours, benefit sanctions?
WHERE ARE ALL THE JOBS?
Not all of the Unemplyed are drinkers, smokers, and druggists. THINK!
How would you coerce them into jobs?
(Oh hang on. Where are the jobs?)
Part time. Zero hours, benefit sanctions?
WHERE ARE ALL THE JOBS?
Not all of the Unemplyed are drinkers, smokers, and druggists. THINK!
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Oh, go on, Emmie! Let rip!
;-)
A couple of examples from me of the way that recruitment agencies work:
1. I walked into a recruitment agency in Ipswich (smartly dressed and sober) and asked if I could sign onto their books. The woman took one look at me (male and, at that time, in my 50s) and said "You can fill a form in if you like but we won't have anything for you".
2. I attended a recruitment agency in Bury St Edmunds, along with another guy in his 50s and three young women in their 20s, to fill in forms and do some tests seeking temporary office work. I heard nothing from them for 9 months, when they offered me a job working outdoors on a traffic survey. (I'd been offered no office work, despite having extensive administrative experience and holding qualifications in IT).
When I got there I met up with the same four job candidates whom I'd met 9 months earlier. The guy in his 50s (who, prior to being made redundant, had been in charge of over 100 office staff in the DWP and who knew office administration backwards) had also had no work from that agency up to then. The three women in their 20s were all moaning about having to work outdoors as, for the past 9 months, they'd been given office placements every single day.
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A couple of examples from me of the way that recruitment agencies work:
1. I walked into a recruitment agency in Ipswich (smartly dressed and sober) and asked if I could sign onto their books. The woman took one look at me (male and, at that time, in my 50s) and said "You can fill a form in if you like but we won't have anything for you".
2. I attended a recruitment agency in Bury St Edmunds, along with another guy in his 50s and three young women in their 20s, to fill in forms and do some tests seeking temporary office work. I heard nothing from them for 9 months, when they offered me a job working outdoors on a traffic survey. (I'd been offered no office work, despite having extensive administrative experience and holding qualifications in IT).
When I got there I met up with the same four job candidates whom I'd met 9 months earlier. The guy in his 50s (who, prior to being made redundant, had been in charge of over 100 office staff in the DWP and who knew office administration backwards) had also had no work from that agency up to then. The three women in their 20s were all moaning about having to work outdoors as, for the past 9 months, they'd been given office placements every single day.
Another example of the hidden ageism applied by many employers:
I saw a job advertised where my c.v. seemed to match the employer's requirements (both in terms of qualifications and experience) exactly. So I sent off for the application pack. It was then that I found that the term 'graduate' in the press advert had become 'recent graduate' in the application pack. Further reading through what they'd sent me showed that they were only interested in candidates who'd graduated within the past few years. My own degree was completely worthless to them.
I actually contacted the Equality and Human Rights Commission about that job advertisement, suggesting that (as the vast majority of recent graduates are people in their early 20s) the employer was discriminating against older candidates. Their reply was that, although they also took the view that the job advertisement was discriminatory, their was sufficient leeway in its wording to prevent the EHRC taking formal action against the employer.
I saw a job advertised where my c.v. seemed to match the employer's requirements (both in terms of qualifications and experience) exactly. So I sent off for the application pack. It was then that I found that the term 'graduate' in the press advert had become 'recent graduate' in the application pack. Further reading through what they'd sent me showed that they were only interested in candidates who'd graduated within the past few years. My own degree was completely worthless to them.
I actually contacted the Equality and Human Rights Commission about that job advertisement, suggesting that (as the vast majority of recent graduates are people in their early 20s) the employer was discriminating against older candidates. Their reply was that, although they also took the view that the job advertisement was discriminatory, their was sufficient leeway in its wording to prevent the EHRC taking formal action against the employer.
Thanks, David.
Having reached State Pension age, I'm more or less retired these days, so I no longer have to put up with ageism, etc. I'm still registered for occasional work supervising traffic surveys though (although I've not been offered anything for ages). At least the survey company isn't bothered age, gender or even qualifications. As long as people can do the job well they're happy to employ them.
Having reached State Pension age, I'm more or less retired these days, so I no longer have to put up with ageism, etc. I'm still registered for occasional work supervising traffic surveys though (although I've not been offered anything for ages). At least the survey company isn't bothered age, gender or even qualifications. As long as people can do the job well they're happy to employ them.
Unemployed would be given sufficient welfare to live but not so much that staying unemployed is comfortable enough not to want to find employment and improve one's life. If the economy hasn't generated sufficient jobs for 100% employment, well life isn't fair and eveyone goes through tough patches. Not offering positions to migrants when there are unemployed already here, would help. (If one isn't getting natives applying, then the market's telling you your pay/conditions offer isn't attractive and you need to change it. If that makes your business unviable then either persuade the government it's vital to the country and get subsidies, or accept that you don't have a valid business.) That should be the basis and avoid coercion, employee abuse, and indicate drinking, smoking, other drugs not really relevant to employment seekers, just so long as they are fit to be working.
The Tories think everyone is capable of work. If you can lift your hands up, hold a pen, use a keyboard, make a cup of coffee and a sandwich, then you can work. Even if you can't do all of those, you are still capable of work.
Where are the jobs? Easy. Self-employment. There's lots of things you can attempt on your own.
So there you have it. The answer to unemployment, Tory style.
Where are the jobs? Easy. Self-employment. There's lots of things you can attempt on your own.
So there you have it. The answer to unemployment, Tory style.
// No need to be rude, we all make mistakes.//
what did someone say last night about virtue - signalling ?
" loath as I am to contribute as a result that weird ( she didnt agree with it so it was weird) thread on virtue signalling...." well she has got ovver that one hasnt she?
nice thing about AB: people continue unchanged by what they read .....
perhaps they are unempyed because they didnt finish skool and gain the necessary skills for emplyment?
as someone says - THINK !
do you think that is good advice and will you try it Theely?
druggists arent drug takers by the way - but they may well be unemplyed. but hell this is AB and it is 08 35
sanity will show her face perhaps later on ......
what did someone say last night about virtue - signalling ?
" loath as I am to contribute as a result that weird ( she didnt agree with it so it was weird) thread on virtue signalling...." well she has got ovver that one hasnt she?
nice thing about AB: people continue unchanged by what they read .....
perhaps they are unempyed because they didnt finish skool and gain the necessary skills for emplyment?
as someone says - THINK !
do you think that is good advice and will you try it Theely?
druggists arent drug takers by the way - but they may well be unemplyed. but hell this is AB and it is 08 35
sanity will show her face perhaps later on ......
er Clarion I live just up the rd sunny Newton Heath.
The drug mules outside no 102 cd easily get jobs down the centre - wait on tables or whatever .... but prefer to hang around waiting for a drop ....
unemplopyed wiv babbies in tow - alot think they should live in houses without paying rent ! and by golly they try it!
The drug mules outside no 102 cd easily get jobs down the centre - wait on tables or whatever .... but prefer to hang around waiting for a drop ....
unemplopyed wiv babbies in tow - alot think they should live in houses without paying rent ! and by golly they try it!
In contrast to Chris's post, I was made redundant at 64 and went to register with various employment agencies. I did manage to find work but not that which met my qualifications as a VNA/FLT driver. I kept trawling the net looking for such a position and found one agency near me advertising for a person with those qualifications. I was taken on by the agency and found their client to be very helpful and welcoming. After being at that company for 4 months, and now past my 65th birthday, the company advertised for a permanent position, which I applied for along with 27 other, much younger people. I got the job. I like to think that the 4 previous months at the company whilst on the agency, was testimony enough to my ability and to my work attitude.
In fairness, I had a particular skill and relevant experience, because I also had qualifications to operate various types of FLT, but even so, at 65, I didn't do bad did I?
I stayed with that company for 3 years before retiring at 68. It's a well known company. You will know it and it's good to know that they don't discriminate on age grounds.
In fairness, I had a particular skill and relevant experience, because I also had qualifications to operate various types of FLT, but even so, at 65, I didn't do bad did I?
I stayed with that company for 3 years before retiring at 68. It's a well known company. You will know it and it's good to know that they don't discriminate on age grounds.
One area where employers are crying out for people is Class 1 HGV Drivers, but to get that qualification is very expensive. Hardly any companies train their staff for this now, in contrast with years ago when they would.
I don't know if the government give grants to people to gain this licence, but it would seem to make sense to me if they did.
I don't know if the government give grants to people to gain this licence, but it would seem to make sense to me if they did.
My husband retired from the Army 6 years ago aged 55. He signed on with a Driving Agency and worked with them constantly for a year. He was then 'head hunted' by one of the companies who he had worked for with the Agency and has been there ever since. So there are Agencies who take on over 50s and there are companies who take them on as well.
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