Morality Subjective / Objective?

[Theland]

What underpins your personal morality?
Is it objective or subjective?

[Theland]

Of course you don't.
If you don't believe in God how could you?

[naomi24]

Indeed, so why do you make blanket statements that include everyone? If you want to live life shaking in your boots and dwelling on death that’s up to you - but include me out. I don't need your doom and gloom.

[Theland]

Oh dear Naomi.
Is this really necessary?
You know well what I am talking about.

[Theland]

By the way, "shaking in your boots," is nothing more than an attempt to create yet another argument.
And dwelling on death?
You have the wrong person.
If you want to find somebody who dwells on death, look for an atheist who proclaims his unbelief, yet is obsessed with the God he denies, and whose anger is provoked at his own imaginings.
Don't look to me, I am quite content.

[naomi24]

Yes, it is necessary, Theland. There's nothing positive in spreading misery - and that's what you're doing.

[naomi24]

Theland, I don't know any atheist who is obsessed with a god he denies. You take it upon yourself to tell us all that we're sinners and that there are penalties for that, and then object when you're challenged. If you don't like being challenged, Theland, stop spouting your nonsense. You're nothing but a harbinger of imagined doom - and that's dangerous.

[Theland]

Spreading misery? How?
It was a genuine question about objective / subjective morality.
The thread has been diverted, and not by me.
Your and others choice, not mine.

[Theland]

You are arguing with yourself now.

[naomi24]

Theland, I didn't say ....//Sin is not coming up to Gods perfect standard.
We are all guilty of it.
It's not difficult to understand the implications.// ...

You said it.

[naomi24]

//You are arguing with yourself now. //

Read it again.

[Theland]

No. The bible says it.
Didn't you know that?

[beso]

Theland //My moral beliefs are based on the objective standards of God as the supreme authority.//

Theland's moral beliefs are the subjective musings of ancient ignorant misogynists who arrogantly presumed their personal prejudices were given to them by a supreme being.

Biblical concepts of morality are easily objectively shown to be very sick indeed.

[naomi24]

Theland, you posted it here.

[Theland]

Beso - You omniscient?

[pixie374]

Theland, I'm still wondering which morals you wouldn't have, if you hadn't read them in a book?

[mibn2cweus]

If God had intended us to be perfect then He wouldn't have made us (in His image) human.

[nailit]

//Remember, Indont make the rules.//

The problem that faces you Theland, is how to square the actions (and commands) of the God of the Bible with the morality of any decent human being.
If you think that God is the arbiter of morality (and youve already quoted Jesus saying love God and love each other) then you also have to justify Gods commands to slaughter babies, his action of burying people alive and burning people alive and his orders to commit genocide etc.
To cherry pick a verse out of a morass of conflicting verses answers nothing.

Condemn me (and others here) all you want but my (and others) morality is far superior to that of the God of of the Bible.

[nailit]

I doubt that any ABer here would stone their own children to death or insist that a rape victim marry her rapist or stone to death a woman that doesnt bleed on her wedding night.

[Theland]

Nailit.
I love conversation.
But to be honest, I am weary now.
I am I need a rest.

[nailit]

//Nailit.
I love conversation.//
So do I.

//But to be honest, I am weary now.
I am I need a rest.//
Ah righto!