Does God Forgive Willful Sin

[locusts]

Does god forgive willful sin
and mistakes and why ?????

[johnny.5]

danny as you should know this does not worry me
I am agnostic it gives me more holidays : )

[Mamyalynne]

Despite being part of my upbringing Pixie, I never really dwelt on it - unable to think it possible as I gazed at a newborn.

Therefore it hasn't blighted my life.

[MallyJ]

There is no god...invented by humans to keep the lower orders in line...

[pixie374]

Fair enough, I just wondered if anyone believed it.

[Mamyalynne]

Didn't work,even us believers can be bolshy;-)

[Theland]

Peter Pedant - I don't cut and paste.

[allenlondon]

Or tell lies?

[JimF]

Any pointless, contentious thread where the OP plays agent provocateur to instil discord.

The answer is fairly simple, really, and can be deduced from boolean logic.

Do you believe in god? If you don't, the question is moot so end.

Do you believe that god created the universe out of nothing but otherwise has taken no further interest in his creation and is just happy to let nature just get on with it? If so, you're a deist, so end, though you are a rare breed who believes both in creationism and evolution!

If you believe that god takes an active interest in the conduct of humans, then you're now stuck between a rock and a hard place! You then have to decide whether god will forgive those sins which you really tried not to make but just couldn't, for whatever reason - the frailty of man, and all that, then you're good! You're going to heaven right there! Pat on the back from St Peter and time to put a deposit down on your own cloud.

But, if you're a murderer or a thief or an adulterer or otherwise in contravention of the ten commandments, and you did it on purpose, then it's down below for you. Time to meet St Nick and all his little wizards, with a pitchfork up the fundament for all eternity.

Of course, you could always stop being such a religious nut-job and do something useful with your life.

[naomi24]

The word ‘sin’ only ever enters my vocabulary if I am discussing religion. Sin is the most disgustingly cruel concept ever invented by man. The religious bang on about Satan's evil intentions but if they want to examine pure evil they need look no further than the notion of ‘sin’.

[Atheist]

Naomi: And Original Sin is even worse than ordinary sin; it means that people who have never done anything wrong are counted as sinners. A big racket devised by the racketeers who jumped on the Christian bandwagon.

[naomi24]

Yes indeed, atheist. There were no flies on that bunch. No one, but no one, is off the hook!! Sickening.

[mjwman]

As no one has ever proved there is a God, there is no way of answering this question.

[nailit]

Do we forgive God his willful sin?
Or bang him up in the funny farm where he belongs?

[Peter Pedant]

oh well
I dont have any difficulty in finding that murder is sinful
ho hum
out on a limb again

[nailit]

Original sin...
A doctrine dreamt up by a misogynistic cleric hundreds of years after jesus....'Saint' Augstine

[Peter Pedant]

// Peter Pedant - I don't cut and paste.//
oh
you write it yourself?
then can I ask for slightly more apposite refs from the bible for what you state ? thx

[Peter Pedant]

// A doctrine dreamt up by ...'Saint' Augustine//

yeah day said - stop drinking and scrowing around Orgie - ( orgie - augie - geddit?) and thinka sumfing
an he said - yeah oh kay what about original sin
at least the idea is - - - original

You seem Nailit when you were reading the whole bible you must have skipped froo John 1 , the bit where John the Baptist is doing It - baptising that is!
And there has to be something washed out
that is where sin comes in - um or out
oh come on loosen up all of you
I am not asking you to attend Mass tomorrow or anything

[nailit]

PP, Where in john 1 is original sin mentioned?
Its a doctrine, made many years later.

[Peter Pedant]

oh Jesus
John the Baptist was baptising ....
sorry I thought you realised ....
no 0 0 yes please dont ask about Pontius Pilate

[allenlondon]

We had all this sorted way before you Johnny-come-lately christians.

In Buddhism (kicked off early, about 500BC), Karma is subdivided into Intentional Actions (kicking someone called Naomi up the Jim Royle), and Unintentional, (kicking a ball, missing, and accidentally connecting with some person called Naomi’s Jim Royle).

(Names changed to protect the innocent).