The Dictatorship Of Relativism.

[Khandro]

How are we to get out of this morass?

https://www.crisismagazine.com/2020/the-dictatorship-of-relativism-has-arrived?mc_cid=81eb3fa5d8&mc_eid=cb96807d92

[Khandro]

Atheist //Khandro; can you explain what you mean by 'morass'? I mean explain to a simpleton like me.//

Do you not have a dictionary?

Are you completely unaware of what has been going on around you? Does the 'long march into the institutions' which started in the 1960s with people like Rudi Dutschke, the Frankfurt school, which has finally succeeded in permeating into our schools, Universities, museums, Journalism, politics theatres & media & has now reached the absurd, though terrifying point of "hate crime" whereby a person can be punished for ,in the estimation of someone else, thinking incorrectly?

[Togo]

Note the projection again at 21.37. The paucity of original though in him cannot accept the ability in another. The problem posing as the solution is part of the process of information dissemination that is designed to contaminate truth and disguise toxic cant as wisdom.

[Theland]

What does that mean in p!ain English? ∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆

[douglas9401]

Togo says atheist's a mouthy bawbag, Theland.

[Theland]

Yeuckhhh! That's snot nice!

[Khandro]

'The long march' finally made it, even to Eton;

https://email.t-online.de/em#f=INBOX&m=15679552001719810&method=showReadmail

[Theland]

Yes it's a war being fought, and the trick is we don't think there is one!
That's clever.
Everything is under attack, most notable and dangerously, the family, the very unit that could protect us from this PC onslaught, yet ordinary people will defend it.
Yes that's clever. And its a multi pronged attack!

[Khandro]

Though aware of events around us, I lacked a framework in which view it as a whole, but last summer I came across the excellent Marc Sidwell discussing his book with Peter Whittle. I've tried to buy the book, but it may be sold out I don't know, it only seems to exist at the moment as a kindle - which I don't do:

[Togo]

For the first and possibly last time, I am happy for someone to "interpret" what I mean @7.35.

[Zacs-Master]

How does Relativism affect your life, Khandro?

[Khandro]

A good question Zacs, do you mean my daily life? if so very little is effecting that at the moment, thanks to covid. If you mean my life & that of my family as a part of a larger society, quite a lot.

[Old_Geezer]

"Relativism, roughly put, is the view that truth and falsity, right and wrong, standards of reasoning, and procedures of justification are products of differing conventions and frameworks of assessment and that their authority is confined to the context giving rise to them."

That sounds fair enough. Times differ, different rules, it makes little sense condemning a past time because it differed from the present, as it's not only pointless but bound to encourage future folk to do the same to you. Conversely it makes just as little sense to assume the views of the past are right and today's understanding is wrong. Views need debating and common sense applied at all times.

But it does suggest that what is right and wrong for a community may overlap with the possibility of a universal definition of right and wrong. I suspect the universal one doesn't actually exist save as a developing communally agreed version. After all, where would it come from ? One would end up conjecturing deities like that.

Worth considering whether this is only about two states. Maybe something can be right and wrong at the same time, or neither right nor wrong at the same time.

[Zacs-Master]

Khandro, yes, I'd like you to expand on how it [Relativism] affects your life & that of your family as a part of a larger society.

[Khandro]

OG //something can be right and wrong at the same time,//

This is true, e.g. 'lockdown' is both right & wrong, depending on which way you view it & what your priorities are. But when you start punishing people because their views don't align with your own, as happened to this teacher at Eton or J.K. Rowling then you're heading for societal hell.

Zacs, do you live in some sort of bubble of insularity?

[Paigntonian]

As a churchgoer I can assure you that our congregation has wildly disparate views that we are free to express. Funny sort of 'dictatorship'.

[Theland]

As a churchgoer were you outraged at the Koran being read in one of our cathedrals?
Crosses removed in some churches in case they offended Muslims?
Halal meat being served to our schoolchildren?
And the list goes on ..........

[Paigntonian]

Theland: Yes, I am offended by that. I don't see why religious groups can't celebrate their own faith in their own way. I do not have a desire to visit a mosque simply because I would feel as though I was intruding, not because I dislike Muslims.

[Theland]

Leftism has an unholy alliance with Islamism, and are pitted against our Judeo Christian culture which is further undermined by militant atheism.
Creeping Marxism has seeped into every nook and cranny of our society, and even the Conservative Party, once a bulwark of British values is not immune to its tentacles.

[Theland]

Paigntonkan - You should leave your church now, and take with you as many as you can.
'' Come out of her my people.''
'' On that day many will say, ''Lord,Lord,'' I will say, I never knew you!''

[naomi24]

//Paigntonkan - You should leave your church now, and take with you as many as you can. //

Sheer arrogance!