Is This Life All There Is?

[goodlife]

I found that a name of the wicked rots from God’s memory, but the good name of the obedient, God remembers, either to preserve them through Armageddon if they are living then or resurrect them to life on earth.
Eccl 7:1

[Atheist]

Goodlife, that sounds awful! You must be terrified in case you are a name of the wicked.

[goodlife]

True but not terrified, just aware that I'm to be obedient. Imagine if everyone did that - there would be no wars, crime, famine, poverty or immorality. People would love and respect everyone.

[AuntPollyGrey]

Thats a misquote Goodife. Eccl 7:1 has nothing to do with being obedient to God : King James Version Ecc 7:1

'A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth.'

-BTW I looked it up as I'm not a Christian.

[emmie]

an die of boredom

[AuntPollyGrey]

Goodlife -would that be you being obedient to a God that sent down floods, pestilence and destruction?

[Atheist]

Goodlife; 11.42
Are you saying that obedience to god would result in everyone loving and respecting each other? Surely obedience to a command cannot result in genuine love and respect. If a person orders me to show him respect and obedience (and some people do issue such orders), I would feel the opposite so far as he was concerned.

[Theland]

Answering the question, no, this life is but a precursor to an eternity with God.
A comforting thought for me.

[Peter Pedant]

and the septuagint is

ἀγαθὸν ὄνομα ὑπὲρ ἔλαιον ἀγαθὸν καὶ ἡμέρα τοῦ θανάτου ὑπὲρ ἡμέραν γενέσεως αὐτοῦ

that eez the greek translation that the alexandrians jews commissioned in 330 BC ( seventy sages emerged from their cells waving identical translations )

good is used rather than better - (beltion) and than is translated above.

an just in case you think it is ecclesiasticus ( ekkl- easy- whaticus, a thousand ABers echo) - that is

Do no evil, so shall no harm come unto thee. 2 Depart from the unjust, and iniquity shall turn away from thee.

[douglas9401]

When you get there, Theland, ask your new landlord to explain the reasoning for all the misery and suffering of innocents living on his creation.

Unless there's nobody home of course.

[Peter Pedant]

// Surely obedience to a command cannot result in genuine love and respect.//
this is all to do wiv free will, innit?

but christians believe that obedience to god gives rise to freer will - sort of to do evil intentionally is NOT exercise of free will

[davebro]

Yes it is - make the most of it while you can.

[emmie]

if there is any form of God why would they make peoples lives so hard, or in the case of many children, cancer. As in little Ava who at two had it and died. I can't understand any God being that cruel.

[goodlife]

Jesus did,“Although he was a Son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered, and after he had been made perfect he became responsible for everlasting salvation to all those obeying him.” (Heb. 5:8, 9, NW)

AuntPollyGrey@ don't you watching TV it going on there save the planet David attenborugh very worried. I thing you find it all man doing.

[Theland]

We all suffer.
It is only a matter of degree.
But death is an end to suffering, and the beginning of a new life without suffering.

[SparklyKid]

Afraid so. After death, either burnt or buried in the ground.

[jackthehat]

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?

:o)

[Theland]

How Bohemian :-)

[pixie374]

Theland, why and how do you believe there is another life without suffering? Why did God not start with that? And it can't be about testing... if it was him who created everyone.

[vulcan42]

Yes, this is all you get, anything else, including an afterlife, is just wishful thinking.

[Theland]

Studying the scriptures.