paying to charity

[Renoah]

i recently went on a night out after work with all my workmates. we work in a bar so we can usually get in for free to all the other bars in our town...
the other night we showed our wage slips etc. and the woman on the door said it was fine but that we HAD to give �2 to a charity box which was basically just a bucket next to her. It was a revolution bar so im assuming the charity was legit. However, surely thats not quite right? Dont get me wrong, im all up for charity and what not. But shouldnt it be a personal choice?

[Ethel]

You had three choices - pay the proper entry fee; pay the �2 or go elsewhere

[B00]

LMAO @ Ethel's bluntness, I love it....lol

Just consider the �2.00 as the entry fee to that particular club and think no more about it.

[Renoah]

that really wasnt my point... maybe i shouldnt cloud your poor judgement with context ethel.

[justmetoo]

I agree with you Renoah, giving to charity should be a personal choice....

[Ethel]

Yes giving to charity is a personal choice.

But free admittance where a fee is the norm is at the managements' discretion, as is enforcing an alternative �2 to charity clause.

You had no actual right to free entry, and a charitable donation is lieu is perfectly legal.

If you didn't want to give to charity, you could have paid the full entrance price or go elsewhere. You weren't ransacked.

[R1Geezer]

As ethel says the club can enforce whatever entry conditions it likes in this case it's �2 in the charity box. I'm surprised that working in a bar yourself you are unaware of this fundemental tennet of retail, namely the management reserve the right to refuse service. It could say for example if you want to come in you have to do 50 pressups naked and donate �10 to Peruvian Ginea pig farmers. Your choice whether you go in.

[B00]

Blimey R1Geezer what kinda pubs do you frequent? LOL

;-)

[R1Geezer]

Yeah I live in Bournemouth, they cater for all tastes here!

[dot.hawkes]

i could refuse to serve my customers but unfortunately i can;t do it for personal gain or entertainment, but just refusing to serve them would be satisfaction enough sometimes : )))

Hi B00!!!! we keep missing each other!!

[B00]

waves to dotty Hello you, you well?

I don't half fancy a night out with R1Geezer here, sounds interesting, lol.

[dot.hawkes]

I know B00 it would involve travelling darn sarf and it's unknown territory there they speak a different language and wear trendy clothes and stuff

[R1Geezer]

You're welcome, Boo, I'd show you good time, take you for a spin on the bike too!

[Ethel]

I know exactly what he means by a Brighton good time.

I saw a man cycling in Brighton - he was totally naked.

The seat looked plastic to me - must have been painful to stand up

[Renoah]

Whether i paid in or not, i would've had to give �2 to the charity.

For the sake of your all your rambling.. I was happy to give my donation and I 100% realise i wasnt ransacked, but thanks, really, for making that clearer to me... I don't get how you missed the actual question. All i wanted to know was whether it was illegal or just wrong to make somebody, anybody, give to charity, wherever you are...

I expected some keen oxfam guy to give me some insight into giving to charity. I didnt expect to be made to feel stupid and patronised. Thanks.

[R1Geezer]

It's you who is ignoring the answers, not us ignoring the question. They are not forcing you to give to charity, they are making that a condition of entry, simple! if you want to come in you comply with those conditions. They could just as easliy have charged you �2 and gave it to charity later. They could have said you can't enter unless you run round the block, so your question would have read "is it legal force people to run around the block?" The point is your question flawed in it's assumptions. We have tried to answer and inform at the same time.

[B00]

Well actually some of us were angling for a free night out in Bournemouth ;-)

[dot.hawkes]

no that would just be you B00, I'll stick with Southport it's safer.

[Ronny44]

I think all the money in the bucket would be split between the doormen at the end of the night for a drink or 3. : -)

[Ethel]

Some people sell goods for charity.

If I want the goods,should I be able to have them for nothing if I choose not to pay?

[jno]

giving to charity is your choice. Letting you into their bar is their choice. As Ethel says, you had a personal choice not to go into the bar; you didn't take it.