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yingsu | 13:53 Tue 21st Apr 2009 | Society & Culture
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How do you make changes to the English Government?
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From what I can gather, everyone is allowed to vote for a candidate from a particular party. I think Scotland and Wales just go along with what England says. In N.Ireland, they come to an agreement after many fights.
you could try leaking smear stories to the press and waiting for people to resign.
Who is credited with saying, "You can vote for anyone you want, the Government always wins"? Or something along those lines.
We don't have an English Goverment, its British, but in reality, its Scottish, and has been since 1997.

In answer to your question, revoke the Barnet Formula and the West Lothian question.
agreed absolutely Lonnie...
"In answer to your question, revoke the Barnet Formula and the West Lothian question. "
How do you revoke a question?
Just curious...
There is no English parliament. It is a British parliament. Do not confuse British with English. Scotland and Wales are part of the UK, not - I repeat NOT - part of England.
Thats just what its called, as you well know, but for others, its where the Scots can vote on English matters that have nothing to do with them, (and they do), but not the other way round.
The Welsh and Norhtern Irish can also vote on English matters.
The only Nationals that can't vote on matters in any of the Home Countries ar the English.
Its also against the law, (brought in by this goverment) to say on the National Census that your English

As to revoking it, Make it law that Scots can only vote in Scotland on Scottish issues, and bring in a fair playing field.
"Its also against the law, (brought in by this goverment) to say on the National Census that your English"

No it ain't!

"The English and Welsh have recently been permitted a tick box option for the next Census 2011"
evidently someone has listened to the people for once rojash if your statement is correct regarding the 2011 Census .
But it is, check, and to go along with that, as you know, I have a handicapped daughter, a Social worker was at my house filling in forms, and when it came to Nationality, I said English, she said 'I can't put that down'

You tell me why?,

And on the National Cencus, if you put down English, you are deemed to have defaced the form, and are open to a hefty fine.
Lonnie - actually, I agree. I think England SHOULD have its own parliament. And I think English people should be aware of their national identity. I just don't like it when 'English' is used to mean 'British'.
So what is English then?

Where you were born? My father was born in NY and came here when he was 2

Your Ancestry? My kids have an Irish mother, daughter of an Austrian refugee what are they?

Where you grew up? to what age?

Isn't it all really rather pointless?
Why is it so pointless, jake?

In the same way that you are apparently proud of your multi-cultural origins and philosophy, many are proud to be identified with a particular area or country. Lots of people do not have the same difficulties as you in doing so. Many people in the UK like to call themselves �English� (or Scottish or Welsh or whatever) because they were born there, their ancestors (as far back as they want to go, which for most people is no more than two or three generations) were born there and they have spent most of their life there.

The problem, particularly for the English but not so much for the Scots, Irish or Welsh, is that to identify yourself as such is bordering on being �racist�. Despite your belief that the idea of national identity is somewhat old hat, people throughout the world for one reason or another like to identify themselves as �belonging� to a particular nation or race.

The only nationals that seem to be castigated for their pride are the English.
I'm not proud of them any more than I'm proud of say having black hair!

Why be proud of where you were born ?- it's not some great achievement you've struggled for years to attain.

What's even stranger is that most of the right wingers who are apparently so proud of their country seem to spend an awful lot of time on the news thread saying how rubbish it is!
About 140 barrels of gunpowder.

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