Overrated Intelligence Of Aliens?

[Seadragon]

I'm not asking if aliens exist, I'm assuming the existence of aliens, the aliens of countless appearances worldwide and throughout time - the 2 legs, arms humanlike features etc. What I wanted to know is why do people assume that aliens are intelligent? There is this belief that they are superior to humans. Is it because of their flying technology and that they can transcend space at such speed. I mean how do we know that the material of their UFO's is not readily available on their planet? Or biologically they can adapt to different atmospheric conditions readily? That doesn't necessarily imply that the UFO inhabitants are anymore intelligent than us? If we had say metallic material that could float, we would no doubt have the whole of the Universe mapped out by now?

I was wondering this because assuming there was/is an alien in Roswell and how about the much hushed up incident on Shikoku Island in 2008 (suggestion of an alien carted off) how come none of their 'kind' have been to retrieve them? And how many, many reports are we going to hear of medical examinations - I mean how many examinations are they going to continually carry out from God knows how long these stories have been around? With intelligence comes curiosity but one has to really ask - are aliens really as intelligent as we give them credit for? Aren't we, humans the most intelligent beings in the Universe?

[123everton]

No harm in that Luna, no proof either, but no harm.
Whatever helps to make sense of this world to you can only ever be a blessing.

[naomi24]

Everton, //All I'm asking for is a bloke walking home saw a space ship, the end. Not there, why? //

Because you haven't bothered to look. There are a few of those blokes you're talking about here, and it came up right away in a google search for 'UFOs 19th century'.

http://science.howstu....com/ufo-history4.htm

[123everton]

No but I did bother to ask (twice) so we've now about six, although one's a song so could be rather dubious.
The one in Delaware could be interesting, but, no names of witnesses etcand no other phenoma from such a low flying aircraft, no noise, disturbance of the air or magnetism, only one of those sources I'd view as reliable (in Oxford), what is clear is that around the time of H.G. Wells' book there was a sudden upsurge in sightings.
Maybe the alien Moses set off 100 years ago to look for the promised planet.

[123everton]

Seeing is believing Luna, you only have to convince yourself what you experienced is accurate to your own satisfaction.
I'm not dismissing the possibility of alien life forms, just (sorry) 99% of the reports, you neither need, nor do you ask me, to validate your world view.
Nor should you.

[naomi24]

Everton, Why bother to ask at all? Your just as capable as I am of searching for the answer - and apart from that, we've been through al this before.

[123everton]

To be honest, I'm not that interested in the subject, I've seen lots of things you cite as proof, I disagree the vast majority of it is interpretation and conjecture.
A large space ship flew low over a village but not a hair was ruffled or a slate displaced, any object that moves through the air (especially a flying object) creates drag, but not this one?
If this is a truthful account to you and worthy of merit, then yaay, it's no different to evidence of any other phenoma be it Godly or ghostly.
Maybe it was harvest festival time?

[naomi24]

Wrong. I've never claimed anything to be proof. There is no proof. And I've no idea what spaceship you're talking about that flew over a village. Never heard of that one. You must be thinking of someone else.

[123everton]

On July 13, 1860, a pale blue light engulfed the city of Wilmington, Delaware. Residents looked up into the evening sky to see its source: a 200-foot-long something streaking along on a level course 100 feet above. Trailing behind it at 100-foot intervals cruised three "very red and glowing balls." A fourth abruptly joined the other three after shooting out from the rear of the main object, which was "giving off sparkles after the manner of a rocket." The lead object turned toward the southeast, passed over the Delaware River, and then headed straight east until lost from view. The incident -- reported in the Wilmington Tribune, July 30, 1860 -- lasted one minute.
It's from your own link, I assumed you'd read it.

[naomi24]

Everton, Ah, I see. Right. I think you're getting confused. I provided the link because you asked for reports of UFO sightings from the 1900s so I gave you some. I didn't, however, claim them to be proof. Simple.

[jake-the-peg]

Remember the discussion on the miracle of the sun

http://en.wikipedia.o...he_Miracle_of_the_Sun

Seen by thousands of devout Catholics - conclusion: a religious miracle.

Had it been seen by thousands of UFO watchers you'd have a different interpretation - I doubt any would claim it as a religious miracle.

Had it been observed by astronomers you'd doubtlessly have a third interpretation

It all comes down to the context of the observer

[123everton]

I agree with JTP on that, the explainations are based entirely on one's own prejudices.
If you don't view it as evidence why cite it?

[naomi24]

Everton, I agree with Jake too, and I haven't cited anything as evidence. I repeat, I simply provided the information you wanted. This is becoming tedious and silly, so enough now.

[Seadragon]

Ok this is becoming serious. I have a suggestion. Since we are in a New Year and we are making a stand for Mankind in the Universe - a throughly good cause may I add, we should launch an Answerbank Federation. Everyone on this thread, you will be so pleased to hear are already signed up. Our intention is to go where no Man (person) has gone before and solve this mystery?

Jake knows the physics of space, so he/she can build the spaceship. I think he/she is being somewhat coy though and needs some encouragement , about 5 years is ample time to have a craft ready?
Zac - you are clearly the Chef.
Jno - Joint Commander with Jason?
Everton - Scientist
Chris - Botanist, should there be a natural world there? (You're our budding out of space Darwin)
Molly - Clearly with the 'germs' your assigned Medical staff, should Zac overdo the sherry.
Naomi - Negiotiator (however that spelt) and ultimate Communicator with the extra-terrestials, should we find any.
Luna - Navigator.

[Seadragon]

We should arrange to meet on 4 Jan 2015 as I have a prior appointment with my daughter on 3 Jan 2015 to discuss her having a MSN account. Additionally any new members we consider unfavourable should be imprisoned and should negiotiations fail, they can be handed over as a trade-off for our freedom.

I think the Answerbank Federation is perfectly capable of finding the answers to intelligent life. Anyone not complying will be shot in the name of a good and justifiable cause.

[Seadragon]

Good-Night.

[123everton]

I think it's good that you have a fervent belief in something for which there is no proof, I just hope it's not genetic.
http://www.theanswerb...Question842800-2.html

[Seadragon]

I see Everton - you're not happy with being the Scientist? How about the Photographer? After all, it would be a waste of time of we went all that way and didn't take any photo's??

I seem to be in the minority of .....one.... who doesn't think the aliens, should they exist are at all intelligent. Or at least not the ones to have visited Earth. There could may well be a superior intelligence in the Universe, statistically as others have said it is likely and maybe they have not managed space travel either for whatever reason - may be lack of capable material? I'm not questioning people's judgement on whether they exist or not, I'm just saying if you re-read the question posted that these particular aliens don't seem that intelligent?

But as I said I am in the minority.

[naomi24]

Everton, I presume you're talking to me again, but what the hell you're talking about is anyone's guess. Now why don't you stop hijacking this thread and give others a chance to answer the original question?

[123everton]

If you make me the scientist the mission would be doomed to failure, lol, engineer and we've got a chance.
It's like going back more than twenty years ago in the job centre.
Nothing wrong with being in a minority, you could still be right.
I think someone said something similar earlier, inteligence is relative to the task Captain William Jones was taught everything he needed to know about sailing square riggers and sea craft in general by an illiterate Irishman, there are Amazonian tribesmen who are pretty much the same, put one of us clever sparks in there house and we'd be dead within a month, the men who designed the atom bomb couldn't even make a cup of tea.