Transsexual

[Motoko2501]

I was born this way, how can I be accountable for being given a male body and a female brain. Surely it is the same as a person being born with a physical disability or a mental disability, how can they be held accountable foe something which is completely beyond their control?

[joggerjayne]

Sassy ... it's some sort of "in joke".

Mikoto ... if there were a God, then He would have created all of us ... including people trapped in the wrong gender body ...

... so He would be unlikely to judge you in any way badly.

[joggerjayne]

jno ... yes, that's a good point, which I had overlooked.

[jackthehat]

Fair 'enuff........just thought I was adding a bit of background information.

How is God holding you accountable?

[DTCwordfan]

that is correct jno - for both sexes transiting and obviously post-op after.

[Motoko2501]

I used to be a devout Christian and still have really bad sessions of extreme guilt and self loathing about this.

[jno]

God created Man in his own image. Woman he created from Man's rib. This is a complex procedure and it's not surprising you get the occasional slip-up with some chromosomes in a muddle.

[jackthehat]

In that case, I doubt if there are many folks on here who can be of much help to you.....

I take it you'll have been in contact with these people?

http://www.beaumontsociety.org.uk/

[jno]

even devout Christians have no reason to feel guilt over this, though there may be some obscure verse in Leviticus ranting about it. Whether you are still a believer or not, this is something you need to come to terms with yourself; it sounds like you vs you, not you vs God. Judging by your question, you are already on the way toward dealing with this.

[DTCwordfan]

So why the guily motoko, accept your sexuality as it stands, as an awful lot of us do. We all have a mix of female and male genes in us, with some of us they are a little out of kilter. Read Brain Sex and that gives a pretty good explanation of chromosome imbalances and the impacts on our repsective hormone levels - and it isn't a static thing as the balances change through our lives.

[joggerjayne]

The only thing about which you should feel bad is having been a Christian.

[DTCwordfan]

Good advice jth...they are very good.

[Ankou]

compassion and understanding are a christian duty. sounds to me like as jno says, you vs you.

[DTCwordfan]

How far are you on with your transformation, motoko.

Strikes me that you may have some major internal battles going on and these need to be resolved before you go further.

[Motoko2501]

I've been livin full time for almost a year now and been on HRT and I'm so happy right now, compared to the way I used to be. One of the signs of not being transsexual is when they put you on HRT if you get more depressed it's a fact that you are not really trans, I think this is the only real physical test for trans apart from an autopsy, as when a genuine trans person gets the right hormones in their body they feel a lot happier. It's like a genetic female recieving injections of testosterone, she wouldn't feel happy about herself at all, it's basically the same for trans people.

But I'm under a gender therapist and voice coach and I'm doing quite well. My face and voice look and sound female, except my body is quite muscular, although I'm very slim naturally so I stopped training when I was given my " diagnosis ".

But yeah, I do have problems with God, the church told me I was being decieved byt the devil and stuff when I confided in my pastor ( something I deeply regret, the look of disgust on his face said it all.)

Butyeah, I guess the un-brainwashing will take a while to go.

[boxtops]

Be positive mokoto - you can come on here any time you want to share your thoughts, hopefully it helps a bit.

[cazzz1975]

the church are well known for their narrow minded approach

[DTCwordfan]

yes I would discount some of the Churches views..... though there are those that are more accepting - Beaumont may help with you as to where in your local community

[notasyoungasiwas]

I don't think your pastor is a very nice man. Of course you can't help being born this way and a true Christian would not want to make you feel bad. A lot of not very nice people hide behind religion.

[albaqwerty]

You are not accountable to anyone but yourself.

When you look in the mirror and see who you want to be on the outside and stay the same person inside (caring, considerate, friendly) that will have been a heck of a journey.

Take care of yourself and I hope all works out well xx