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modeller | 10:27 Tue 18th Oct 2011 | Religion & Spirituality
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I get visits from Jehovah Witnesses, RCs and C of Es and I make a practice of asking them if they have read/studied any other contemporary religions or beliefs such as Greek, Roman and Nordic .

So far the answer has always been No! Some are even repelled at the very idea.

How can they peddle their mythology if they don't know anything about others.

I usually tell them my Nordic Gods are more reliable and Valhalla sounds far better than a week in the Costa Brava.
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Gnosticism is quite flexible.
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billand //The following morning is a totally different story. //
No it's not actually. In Valhalla every day starts anew. Every day they have battles ,feasting and wenching and next day all those killed , injured , deflowered etc are resurrected and start afresh . This goes on untill armageddom when all the powers of evil fight all the powers of good which wipes out everybody except for one man and woman who were safe in the branches of the tree of life . They then come down and repopulate the new world which has risen from the ashes of the old.
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well as a muslim, we are taught to study other religions, whatever it be, as this helps us learn more about our religion. Other religions though i dont know what they do.
Well as the fruit of a tree identifies it, so the results of human actions identify what kind of people are producing them. Jesus Christ, the Founder of Christianity, pointed this out. He said: “A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men.( Matt 7:18, 20.

So fruits is a self-sacrificing love, the desire to sanctify God’s name, the proclamation of God’s Kingdom, separateness from the world, and faith in the Bible—all characterize true worshippers. Such fruits also set genuine worshippers apart from other religions. (John 13:34, 35)
I have an orange tree in my garden. It is riddled with decay large sections of bark missing and hole right through its trunk. It produces lovely fruit.
God's name certainly needs people like Goodlife to sanctify it for anyone who reads the Bbile can easily see that Abrahams's God is indeed a monster.
goodlife //So fruits is a self-sacrificing love, the desire to sanctify God’s name, the proclamation of God’s Kingdom, separateness from the world, and faith in the Bible—all characterize true worshippers.//

Separateness from the world is one of the central peices of utter stupidity and a large contribution to the demise of our environment. Religious fools reject the fact that we are of this Earth and happily allow its destruction because they know that one day soon their god will come and fix everything. They have been waiting 2000 years for that day.

The fruits of worship have always been sour.
"..the Lord will smite with a scab the heads of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will lay bare their secret parts."
..........Isaiah 3:17

"I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with your flowing blood..."
..........Ezekiel 32:5

"I will fall upon them like a bear robbed of her cubs, I will tear open their breast, and there I will devour them like a lion, as a wild beast would rend them."
..........Hosea 13:8

"Behold, I will corrupt your seed and spread dung upon your faces..."
..........Malachi 2:3

"'Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women...'"
..........Ezekiel 9:5
"Behold the day of the Lord comes, cruel, with wrath and fierce anger...Whoever is found will be thrust through and whoever is caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed in pieces before their eyes, their houses will be plundered and their wives ravished."
..........Isaiah 13:9, 13:15

"Therefore fathers shall eat their sons in the midst of you and sons shall eat their fathers...I will send famine and wild beasts against you and they shall rob you of your children; pestilence and blood shall pass through you; and I will bring a sword upon you. I, the Lord, have spoken."
..........Ezekiel 5:10, 5:17

"And I will fill your mountains with the slain; on your hills and in your valleys and in all your ravines those slain with the sword shall fall...Then you shall know that I am the Lord."
..........Ezekiel 35:8

"...I make weal and create woe, I am the Lord, who do all these things."
..........Isaiah 45:7
JESUS"Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother- in-law...."
..........Matthew 10:34

"'But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me.'"
..........Luke 19:27

(parable) "If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned."
..........John 15:6

"The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous, and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth."
..........Matthew 13:49

"And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one."
..........Luke 22:36
"Do you think I have to come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division; for henceforth in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three; they will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against her mother, mother- in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against her mother-in- law.
..........Luke 12:51

"He who believes in the Son has eternal life; he who does not obey the son shall not see life, but the wrath of god rests upon him."
.........John 3:36

"And that servant who knew his master's will, but did not make ready or act according to his will, shall receive a severe beating."
..........Luke 12:47

"If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."
..........Luke 14:26




SLAVERY"When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for the slave is his money."
..........Exodus 21:20

"Let all who are under the yoke slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be defamed. Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful on the ground that they are brethren; rather they must serve all the better since those that benefit by their service are believers and beloved."
..........1 Timothy 6:1

"If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservants do."
"Blessed are those servants whom the master finds awake when he comes...."
..........Luke 12:37
"As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from the nations that are round about you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you, to inherit as a possession forever; you may make slaves of them, but over your brethren the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another, with harshness."
..........Leviticus 25:44
"Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, . . . and they shall be your possession . . . they shall be your bondmen forever."
..........Leviticus 25:45-46

"Bid slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect..."
..........Titus 2:9

"Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ...."
..........Ephesians 6:5




WOMEN"But if the thing is true, that the tokens of virginity were not found in the young woman, then you shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones..."
..........Deuteronomy 22:20"

...they have rejected the word of the Lord, and what wisdom is in them? Therefore I will give their wives to others..."
..........Jeremiah 8:9

"I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire will be for your husband."
..........Genesis 3:16

"For the wife does not rule over her own body, but the husband does..."
..........1 Corinthians 7:4

"For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman but woman for man."
..........1 Corinthians, 11:8

"Wives, be subject to your husbands, as to the Lord."
..........Ephesians 5:22

"It is well for a man not to touch a woman."
..........1 Corinthians 7:1

"...the Lord has trodden as in a wine press the virgin daughter of Judah."
..........Lamentations 1:
"Behold the day of the Lord is coming, when the spoil taken from you will be divided in the midst of you. For I will gather the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women ravished..."
..........Zechariah 14:1

"...I will take your wives before your eyes and give them to your neighbor, and he shall lie with your wives in the light of this sun."
..........2 Samuel 12:11

"Thus a married woman is bound by law to her husband as long as he lives..."
..........Romans 7:2

"Likewise, you wives, be submissive to your husbands..."
..........1 Peter 3:1

"As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church."
..........1 Corinthians 14:34

"Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor."
..........Timothy 2:11

"And David took more concubines and wives from Jerusalem..."
..........2 Samuel 5:13





PERVERSION"When men fight with one another, and the wife of one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand; your eye shall have no pity."
..........Deuteronomy 25:11

"Behold, I am against you, says the Lord of hosts, and will lift up your skirts over your face; and I will let nations look on your nakedness and kingdoms on your shame."
..........Nahum 3:5

"He whose testicles are crushed or whose male member is cut off shall not enter the assembly of the Lord."
..........Deuteronomy 23:1

"...she played the harlot in the land of Egypt and doted upon her paramours there, whose members were like those of asses and whose issue was like that of horses."
..........Ezekiel 23:19

"Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, remove the foreskin of your hearts..."
..........Jeremiah 4:4
"Any animal which has its testicles bruised or crushed or torn or cut, you shall not offer to the Lord or sacrifice within your land..."
..........Leviticus 22:24
"David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines; and David brought their foreskins, which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king's son-in-law."
..........1 Samuel 18:27

"Circumcision indeed is of value if you obey the law; but if you break the law, your circumcision becomes uncircumcision. So, if a man who is uncircumcised keeps the precepts of the law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision?"
..........Romans 2:25

"...so when he went into his brother"s wife he spilled the semen on the ground...And what he did (spilling his semen) was displeasing in the sight of the Lord and He slew him also."
..........Genesis 38:9

"Bless, O Lord, his substance, and accept the work of his hands; crush the loins of his adversaries..."
..........Deuteronomy 33:11

You think this God is so great!!! Sorry I dont like him!!
I can see you are confused you dont'n understand anything!
you have just picked out scriptures which have no relevance on their own.
probably that's why you are a Atheists, you do not know the Bible!
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On a mission Ratter? Some really nasty stuff in the Bible...
well said goodlife, they pick what they want and use it to there advantage, in my eyes that is not proof that is manipulation and they do that becasue they have nothing else to do.
goodlife //I can see you are confused you dont'n understand anything!
you have just picked out scriptures which have no relevance on their own.//

This is the universal defence of the theists when the atrocious philisophy of the Bible is revealed. "Oh it is out of context". Yet they never explain in what context these parts magically become a guide to living rightously.

Atheists do understand the Bible which is why we are making a stand against its disgusting tenets. The Bible is a manual for bigotry and prejudice and has been used for generations to justify crimes against humanity.

Ratter's quotes are a fraction of such stuff in the Bible.
I usually tell them I'm a practising something else, and they clear orf.
sith123 // they pick what they want and use it to there advantage, in my eyes that is not proof that is manipulation and they do that becasue they have nothing else to do. //

No sith, it is the theist who picks what they want and manipulates it to justify their prejudices.

Fact is that this disgusting stuff is in the book. Atheists didn't put it there and we will not allow the faithful to pretend it isn't part of their philosophy.

I am sure a lot of theists wish it wasn't there but they are stuck with it. They cannot overtly reject part of the Bible because that would mean it could no longer be considered the complete word of their deity.

Reject some parts and the house of cards collapses. The "evidence" for the very existence of their deity evaporates.

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