Double Standards?

[naomi24]

Whenever murder or some other appalling atrocity hits the headlines, the almost universal reaction is outrage and condemnation of the perpetrator, and from the religious - and in particular Christians - additional prayers and expressions of sorrow for the victims and their relatives. However, the God of Abraham murdered millions and - if his adherents are to be believed - he still (depending on the particular flavour of religion) promises death, damnation, or appalling and eternal torture to all dissidents – with not one word of condemnation from the faithful. How do they reconcile their acceptance of his behaviour and of this example of their blatant double standards?

[modeller]

sandyroe No answer !? Maybe you should consult your tree stump for an answer.

[sandyRoe]

Modeller,
I don't know.

[modeller]

sandyroe You don't know ! Where's your faith gone. ? You doubt your own bible !
You believe in the bible's version of the creation and the impossible story of Noah
but your faith is not strong enough to believe that God helped his chosen people. Those stories are fundamental to the Jewish faith and through that to Christianity and Islam .

[sandyRoe]

The Devil can quote scripture for his own end.

[Father-Ted]

So he can , can he not. beware of false prophets and tired clichés. Can you not do better than that Sandy?

[sandyRoe]

[i] Psalms 14:1 [i]


If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools...

[sandyRoe]

I think I should make it crystal clear that I don't consider any of the fine people here in R&S to be knaves or twisters of the truth.

[modeller]

craig #politics and religion you can argue all day and get nowhere,why not agree to differ#

Can't do that it would destroy the whole point of Answer Bank.
It would be a bit like going to sandy's heaven , boring.

[modeller]

sandy i] Psalms 14:1 [i] ?????
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools# I don't think so !

I thought those words are in Kiplings poem 'IF' Which starts with ' If you can keep your head etc-------------------------- If you can bear to hear the truth twisted by knaves etc. .

[modeller]

sandy have you sorted out the difference between a Poem and a Psalm ?

[chakka35]

sandyRoe -thanks for your query regarding my English, a subject in which I am well versed (sorry!). I meant 'obtuse' in that your answers did not point towards the question.

Although naomi phrased the question perfectly lucidly (and I do mean 'lucidly' and not 'loosely' or 'ludicrously'or 'lubriciously'), you plainly need reminding of it.

As a decent man I'm sure you deplore the atrocities committed by humans. Do you, to an even greater extent, deplore the far greater atrocities committed and incited by your God? Or do you, as naomi asked, have double standards?

And, of course, that applies to all believers in that monster.

[sandyRoe]

A God that atheists don't believe exists commits atrocities? How can that be?

[sandyRoe]

Modeller, I'm stumped. I'd say there's not a lot of difference between a psalm and a poem.

[modeller]

sandy You quoted words that don't appear in a Psalm 14 so you are wrong . It's as simple as that . If you are going to quote from the bible for your mythical God's sake get it right.

[modeller]

sandy Hi ! Do you mind a personal question ? It concerns your ability of fending off awkward questions . Are you a politician of some sort,
in government , trade unionist , a cleric , community activist e.t.c. ?

[mibn2cweus]

//A God that atheists don't believe exists commits atrocities? How can that be?//

Since when has 'God' ever let a silly little technicality, such as His non-existence, stand in the way of those willing to blow themselves to smithereens for the sake of their imaginary friend?

[sandyRoe]

It would be a poor OP that could be answered with a bald 'yes' or 'no'. While I'm no master of circumlocution I like to think my answers sometimes have a depth that would repay careful reading.
What did I do? I scratched a living, nothing more.

I think none have ever donned a suicide belt and went out to kill because of the ordination of women in the CoE. Sectarian violence generally arises when people with a political aim cloak in in a religious one.

[sandyRoe]

* cloak IT in...

[mibn2cweus]

Religions asserted ability to win favours from God is not the only means of obscuring hidden agendas and achieving dubious political ends . . . but it has certainly proven to be a powerful alternative.