Why Do Bad Things Happen?

[goodlife]

A atheist raised the following problem: “To some extent there is order, wonder and beauty in nature. But this is only one half of the picture. The other half is terrible chaos.” Then, after explaining what he means by “chaos”—such things as natural disasters, pestilences and the like—he goes on to say: “A religious person gazes lovingly at the order in nature that strengthens his religion, but looks away from the chaos that weakens such creed.

[goodlife]

I think atheist Perhaps unconsciously at looking for something else, but religion hadn’t seemed able to offer a remedy for their problems.

[TWR]

Goodlife, how can you get Order when men in power throughout the world want to destroy it, regards religious person, I think it's time that house was put in order.

[boxtops]

Chaos is not natural disasters such as you quote - chaos is a state of disorder in its own right.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, //I think atheist Perhaps unconsciously at looking for something else//

That's a mistaken belief. Atheists don't need an emotional crutch - they accept that they're going to die and they take responsibility for their own lives.

[goodlife]

Naomi You are definately right there.

[RATTER15]

goodlife
"I think atheist Perhaps unconsciously at looking for something else, but religion hadn’t seemed able to offer a remedy for their problems."

and why may I ask do you assume that because we don't believe in a load of mumbo jumbo that we have problems? "unconsciously" or even subconsciously.

You dont half talk some nonsense goodlife, don't you think it is time you gave up on this silly little mission you are on? you are achieving nothing but confirming peoples ideas of the cranks within the JW.

[goodlife]

Rat you do make me laugh, are you forgetting you got nothing to offer.

And yet you have met some hospitalized or handicapped people who have a sunny disposition, a cheerful, happy outlook.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, if you think Ratter has nothing to offer, you couldn't be more wrong. Don't make assumptions about people of whom you know absolutely nothing.

[RATTER15]

goodlife, what are babbling about now? I have far more to offer than spilling a load of old tripe that you have been brainwashed into believing, now that really is sad!

So what do you do for a living? or are you just a door knocker and spend your time winding people up and doing nothing constructive.

[goodlife]

Ratter, if you think I has nothing to offer, you couldn't be more wrong. Don't make assumptions about people of whom you know absolutely nothing. But I do know about athiesm.

[vulcan42]

It's strange,goodlife, you only make sense when you copy what naomi has written. It's also strange that an expert on atheism doesn't know how to spell it.

[RATTER15]

goodlife, "But I do know about atheism." the only thing you can possibly know about atheists is that they don't believe in a God, atheists are all individuals. Suggesting you know anything about atheists just proves how shallow and foolish you are.

[goodlife]

Your right shallow and foolish they are, If man arose without intelligent guidance, why should he have intelligence? Can unintelligence create intelligence?


Or to say that there is no Supreme Intelligence is to say that the universe has evolved something higher than itself, it has created intelligence. And to think that anything can create something it does not itself possess is the most vacuous kind of empty-headed reasoning.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, in the absence of the required evidence claiming to know how the universe was created, as you do, really is empty-headed reasoning.

[LazyGun]

You have your own idea about what atheism is, GL - that does not make your idea right or true though.

And once again we have the argument from ignorance - mewling about how it is possible for intelligence to arise from a world lacking intelligent design. Evolution, baby. Read Jerry Coynes "Why Evolution is True" and open your eyes.

[mibn2cweus]

Only good things happen for a reason, because they are a product of reason. Bad things happen due to a lack thereof. Apart from reason, there is no alternative, no choice but to reap the consequences of the inevitable.

[Khandro]

LG; I haven't read that book, and unlike its author, I don't want to criticise books I haven't read, but is it possible for you to paraphrase how he explains consciousness please?

[RATTER15]

goodlife, It really is a total waste of time debating anything with you, your head is full JW nonsense you cannot see common sense, and you talk about "intelligence" Oh dear!

[LazyGun]

@ Khandro No.

[Khandro]

LG; 'No' as in can't, or won't ? :-)