////What would you expect from a religion formed by men who felt that Judaism and Christianity gave far too many rights to women?////
Leavig the original question aside as it is under discussion somewhere else. The above statement itself is a very big joke if any Muslim does believe that Judaism and Christianity gave far more rights to wmen.
we are talking about now, since when did the adherents to Judaism recently flog, stone, behead any woman for daring to ditch her faith, or marry a man out of her faith, they may be ostracised, that's bad enough, but quite honestly the apologists should really think before they type
Well let's face it all muslims are either mad or simple, otherwise why would they believe the unsubstantiated words of a misogynistic and ignorant old slave trader.
Fender, it surely is a funny old world. I guess the reason islam hasn't met the same fate as it's brother philosophy nazism, is that it hasn't bitten off more than it can chew ....so far. It did meet it's match on it's first foray into Europe, lets hope at least some people still have the b@lls to stand up to it.
Not against christianity? They even hate each other Shiah versus Sunni muslims!
Fortunately the vast majority of U.K. muslims are peaceful and law-abiding and just want to get on with their lives.
I am no apologist for crimes in the name of any religion indeed the criminals do not understand their own "religion".
SIQ.
SIQ; //They even hate each other Shiah versus Sunni muslims!// You are dead-right there and the violence between them is on an appalling scale and the cost of it paid for by the Saudis. The weapon of choice is the car bomb, they use a plastic explosive called C4 each car bomb costs $150,000 a 'spectacular' with 20 or so car bombs can cost $3 to $5 million, all killing indiscriminately to fuel sectarian violence.
woofgang Religion is politics without the need to ever prove anything.
Khandro I don't know where you get $150k from ? The bomb itself costs only a few dollars , any more is dependent on the amount and type of explosive you want to use . Most car bombs are small terror weapons and designed to kill in crowded areas. I don't know the cost of C5 or its potency but in my army days plastic explosive was cheap and easy to use.
Even home made explosive is effective and very cheap to make.
modeller: //Khandro I don't know where you get $150k from// ---
Andrew Hosken - BBC Radio 4's The World tonight. "One Iraqi security consultant told me, 'they (ISIS) use this pricey plastic explosive called C4. Each car can cost $150,000 to $200,000.' "
This is why many politicians and security experts in Baghdad suspect ISIS of receiving outside funding from Islamic groups in Saudi Arabia and possibly elsewhere.
//The above statement itself is a very big joke if any Muslim does believe that Judaism and Christianity gave far more rights to wmen.//
I was actually being sarcastic. Women's rights is not a strong point for any of the Abrahamic faiths. They all blame women for everything.
However Islam can be objectively shown to be the bottom of the pile. It is no more obvious than in the fact that Islam permits a man to have four wives but not for any woman to have more than a single husband.
Khandro If Andrew Hoskin said that, ( have you a link ) then it's a load of nonsense. The cars they use can be bought or stolen for a few dollars and the device with the explosive would cost IMO less than $100. Last year in London the would be Tube bombers had bought cheaply all they needed from B&Q .