Oblivion...

[birdie1971]

What's so scary about the concept of oblivion? The god believers that I converse with are either terrified at the notion of oblivion or seem unable to comprehend it. Personally I think it's an inevitability.

This question is to the believers in god: would you feel your life was meaningless if it was shown that god does not exist? And if it was shown that god does not exist, would you be an honest and upstanding member of society? If so, why?

[birdie1971]

BlackadderV - "... /Your idiocy and bigotry leaves me genuinely speechless./ Thank you for that calm, polite, rational assessment of my contribution. I shall leave others to judge..."

Indeed we shall. And thank you for your contribution. Much appreciated.

[SirOracle]

To Blackadder "Deinde noster Jesus Christ te absolvat ".

[birdie1971]

Then, our Lord Jesus Christ absolve.

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[BlackadderV]

Gratias tibi ago. Gloria Dei et Ave Maria.

[SirOracle]

Birdie I am not sure that the inheritancy which you mention is within us,would be there if it had not been implanted by our moral code,which for the vast majority is due to a religious background.

[BlackadderV]

...oops, the should have read Gloria Deo. My Latin master will be turning in his grave.

[birdie1971]

"Thank you. The glory of God and the Hail Mary."

Wow.

It's amazing how saying things in foreign languages makes them more meaningful isn't it? Brilliant! Can't defend your position? - no problem, say it in Latin or ancient Greek and you'll look clever.

[SirOracle]

Fao Blackadder A.M.D.G.

[BlackadderV]

A.M.D.G.

Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam (to the greater glory of God).

I was trying to say the first words of the creed, which are: Gloria Deo in excelsis... but I substituted Dei for Deo. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

[SirOracle]

A Jesuit Schooling ?

[BlackadderV]

No, strict C of E, but a classical schooling. I won the Latin prize every year from star to finish.

[SirOracle]

Without a doubt Latin is the finest language in the world. It is such a pity that it has fallen into such disuse.

Although now being virtually a dead language,one of its advantages is that words cannot change their meanings as seem to happen all the time with English...........Just look at "gay" eg.

[BlackadderV]

In 1968 I was contemplating to convert to Rome when the then pope suddenly sidelined the Latin Mass, so I decided to stick with the C of E and the Book of Common Prayer, only to find that the 17th century language was also sidelined. Sometimes you just can't win.

[SirOracle]

At least there are one or two Churches here in Edinburgh that still have the Tridentine Mass,which I prefer to go to.

The RC Mass nowadays is actually "lower" than Cof E ,it is getting closer to a Presbyterian service every year.

[BlackadderV]

If you ever saw a proper C of E High Mass as it was done in the sixties, you would be amazed. Rome couldn't hold a candle to it.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Without a doubt Latin is the finest language in the world. It is such a pity that it has fallen into such disuse.
Although now being virtually a dead language,one of its advantages is that words cannot change their meanings as seem to happen all the time with English...........Just look at "gay" ..

Not English then? The largest lexicon of any language, ancient or modern.

[SirOracle]

I have many times Blackadder. But I often missed the Stations of the Cross.

[BlackadderV]

If you want catholic tradition in the C of E, then Old St Paul's in Edinburgh is the place to go, or at least it was, I am out of touch.

[SirOracle]

Yes VE but my point was that English is evolving all the time,often to its detriment.

[BlackadderV]

...sorry, it's the Episcopalian church in Scotland, not C of E.