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Isis And Israel
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Never really thought about this before, until it came up in a conversation today, but why are groups like ISIS attacking Europe and not Israel? Plenty of news coverage re: Paris etc but why Europe? Why arent ISIS attacking Israel?
Why do ISIS suicide bombers infiltrate France but not Israel?
I'm not particularly a newshound and miss a lot of current affairs so I could be wide of the mark here' but thought it was an interesting point,
Thanks.
Why do ISIS suicide bombers infiltrate France but not Israel?
I'm not particularly a newshound and miss a lot of current affairs so I could be wide of the mark here' but thought it was an interesting point,
Thanks.
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France (together with other Western powers) poses an immediate threat to ISIS through air strikes on ISIS strongholds. From 27 September:
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It is thus seen as a 'crusader nation' by ISIS.
Germany is similarly seen as a 'crusader nation' which, according to ISIS's own statement is why the France v Germany football match was targeted.
Paris was described in that statement as 'the capital of prostitution and vice, the lead carrier of the cross in Europe', and it was further stated that 'targets included the Bataclan theatre for exhibitions, where hundreds of pagans gathered for a concert of prostitution and vice':
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It is thus seen as a 'crusader nation' by ISIS.
Germany is similarly seen as a 'crusader nation' which, according to ISIS's own statement is why the France v Germany football match was targeted.
Paris was described in that statement as 'the capital of prostitution and vice, the lead carrier of the cross in Europe', and it was further stated that 'targets included the Bataclan theatre for exhibitions, where hundreds of pagans gathered for a concert of prostitution and vice':
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nailit
You want to feel safe. Go live in Israel.They actually defend and protect their own. They mean business. After the Grosvenor St London shooting EL Al is probably the safest airline to use. You want to send a few squibs over the border into their territory? They will respond by the shed load.
The Israelis have been dealt too much crap in the past. They are not messing any more. Good luck to them. They have my respect.
You want to feel safe. Go live in Israel.They actually defend and protect their own. They mean business. After the Grosvenor St London shooting EL Al is probably the safest airline to use. You want to send a few squibs over the border into their territory? They will respond by the shed load.
The Israelis have been dealt too much crap in the past. They are not messing any more. Good luck to them. They have my respect.
ISIS is really an anti-*** affair. And Israelis are not Shiites
Their goal is a Sunni state and as Sandy says, that is a challenge enough without antagonising someone like Israel.
They've attacked France partly because of France's attacks on them and partly because France, like other countries who have supplied their fighters, are an easy target. There probably aren't too many Israeli Arabs who've gone to fight for them, although I stand to be corrected in that (allegedly the Russians actually sent their own "jihadis" to Syria in the hope they'd be killed there. I bet they are regretting that now)
Their goal is a Sunni state and as Sandy says, that is a challenge enough without antagonising someone like Israel.
They've attacked France partly because of France's attacks on them and partly because France, like other countries who have supplied their fighters, are an easy target. There probably aren't too many Israeli Arabs who've gone to fight for them, although I stand to be corrected in that (allegedly the Russians actually sent their own "jihadis" to Syria in the hope they'd be killed there. I bet they are regretting that now)
@Naillit
On a purely practical level, I think the only way outsiders can enter Israel is by plane or by boat or through a security checkpoint on the road. The rest is probably wall or barbed wire, by now. No lone-wolf opportunities there.
Second, the shared border with Syria is contended and even the UN regards it as "Israeli occupied". In other words, one step short of being legitimately held.
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The terrorists would need use their tanks to take the Golan Heights and, if they are Saddam's lefovers, they were, purposely, an inferior model to our State-of-the-Art, at that time. Israel has the very latest tanks, so invaders would be toast.
European powers would have to fly their tank forces out there, which was only possible for the Kuwait and Iraq conflicts because the USA had run airbases in Saudi Arabia, for decades. Resentment of what was regarded as Imperialist occupation was, supposedly, behind Bin Laden's behaviour.
No other country in the region would support transport planes bringing in military hardware and allowing their land to be used to launch an attack on a neighbouring country. It would breach their neutrality status, wreck local diplomatic agreements and, probably, be a violation of international law. Which is why we are left with drones, airstrikes or cruise missiles as options.
On a purely practical level, I think the only way outsiders can enter Israel is by plane or by boat or through a security checkpoint on the road. The rest is probably wall or barbed wire, by now. No lone-wolf opportunities there.
Second, the shared border with Syria is contended and even the UN regards it as "Israeli occupied". In other words, one step short of being legitimately held.
http://
The terrorists would need use their tanks to take the Golan Heights and, if they are Saddam's lefovers, they were, purposely, an inferior model to our State-of-the-Art, at that time. Israel has the very latest tanks, so invaders would be toast.
European powers would have to fly their tank forces out there, which was only possible for the Kuwait and Iraq conflicts because the USA had run airbases in Saudi Arabia, for decades. Resentment of what was regarded as Imperialist occupation was, supposedly, behind Bin Laden's behaviour.
No other country in the region would support transport planes bringing in military hardware and allowing their land to be used to launch an attack on a neighbouring country. It would breach their neutrality status, wreck local diplomatic agreements and, probably, be a violation of international law. Which is why we are left with drones, airstrikes or cruise missiles as options.
@Svejk
That sort of went without saying. If you treat 'Arabs' as a block, they've been at war with Israel since 1949. Also money crosses borders in ways that boots or tanks cannot.
It's a pity the rest of the world cannot pick up the ball and take it home with them. No access to the temple mount until they agree to stop fighting for contr of it. Impossible, in practice, of course. A permanent UN cordon would be worse than just setting fire to heaps of cash.
That sort of went without saying. If you treat 'Arabs' as a block, they've been at war with Israel since 1949. Also money crosses borders in ways that boots or tanks cannot.
It's a pity the rest of the world cannot pick up the ball and take it home with them. No access to the temple mount until they agree to stop fighting for contr of it. Impossible, in practice, of course. A permanent UN cordon would be worse than just setting fire to heaps of cash.
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