Do You Fear The Islamisation Of Our Country?

[Theland]

No need to list the Muslim outrages that are now a permanent feature on the news.
So, does it scare you?
What can be done about it?
Do you really think you understand the problem?

[andy-hughes]

david small - //They won't absorb our culture, we won't conform to theirs. Logically if we can't live with each other with tolerance, then separate countries are needed. This is our country, kick them out. //

The primary objective of terrorism by Islamist extremists is to set people against each other, to breed mistrust, intolerance, and if possible, outright hatred.

This can be achieved by setting one section of the world population against another, with the object of causing as much mayhem and destruction as possible, not only physically, but in terms of making sure that one individual hates another by virtue of cultural difference, and an entrenched attitude and over-developed sense of territorial possession.

On that basis, and reading your post - the Islamists have scored one hundred per cent with you - and that is a tragedy.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//The primary objective of terrorism by Islamist extremists is to set people against each other, to breed mistrust, intolerance, and if possible, outright hatred. //

That's not the reason the extremists give for their actions. How did you come to a different conclusion, Andy? I Somebody must have told you, right? If so, why do you believe them? Are you just plain gullible?

[vetuste_ennemi]

The "tragedy", by the way, is that people are being killed in the cause of jihad - as they have throughout the history of Islam - and idiots in the West refuse to acknowledge the violent ideology we're dealing with.

It took many years of appeasement, pretence and cowardice before we learned the true nature of Nazism. Let's hope we wake up soon to Islam in its raw form.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //The primary objective of terrorism by Islamist extremists is to set people against each other, to breed mistrust, intolerance, and if possible, outright hatred. //

No, that isn't their primary objective. Islamists tell the world quite openly what their intentions are. Why don't you believe them?

[andy-hughes]

vetuste and Naomi - I am frankly tired of your mutual superior attitude in terms of matters religious, and therefore decline to be patronised further and have my views scoffed at because you both decide that your 'knowledge' negates any points I wish to make.

Anyone else who wishes to comment and exchange views is entirely welcome to do so, but I am declining forthwith to engage with either of you, in the interests of a positive exchange of views with people more inclined to discuss opinions, that take the (undeserved) moral high ground.

[andy-hughes]

... Than take the moral high ground.

[Zacs-Master]

AH, you're misinterpreting facts as being the moral high ground.

[naomi24]

Andy-hughes, I don’t see how asking you a question is taking the moral high ground. No one who actually listens to what Muslim fundamentalists are saying can fail to hear their message. I can only assume you don’t listen.

[vetuste_ennemi]

I'd respect you if you knew something about the subject and had reached a different conclusion from mine, Andy. I despise people who parrot fashionable memes for no other reason than that they are fashionable.
The shorthand for the objective clause of the last sentence is "bigot".

[andy-hughes]

Z-M - //AH, you're misinterpreting facts as being the moral high ground. //

I disagree.

A fact is a fact - the way of advising that fact is open to myriad interpretations -

The earth is round - fact.

Advice of that fact - "The earth is in fact round, not flat, and has been proved by science - here is a link for further reading ..."

or -

"The earth is round you ignorant idiot, any fool knows that, why on earth don't you know that, have you been living on Mars? You know nothing!Tut ..."

Which would you rather receive?

[vetuste_ennemi]

plural: bigots.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //I can only assume you don’t listen. //

I don't care what you assume - please see my previous post.

[andy-hughes]

vetuste - //I'd respect you if you knew something about the subject and had reached a different conclusion from mine, Andy. I despise people who parrot fashionable memes for no other reason than that they are fashionable. //

I don't care about your respect, and I don't care what you think of me - please see previous post.

[naomi24]

Oops. He's^ not happy. Oh well....

[mccfluff]

no
its media and stupid people on social media, making stuff up that causes the problems
yes.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//Advice of that fact - "The earth is in fact round, not flat, and has been proved by science - here is a link for further reading ..." //

People have tried that reasonable approach with you and been met with contemptuous put-downs. You are incapable of justifying ANY of your opinions on Islam terrorism. That's why I view you as an ignorant bigot, NOT because you disagree with me.

[Zacs-Master]

When a person refuses to accept facts, it can become wearisome and the frustration sometimes creeps into language. You're not averse to using the odd disparaging adjective yourself so please don't erm....take the moral high ground.

[whiskeryron]

// It doesn't scare me at all, as there is no Islamisation going on ! //

You are kidding us aren't you mikey ? I suggest you travel from the Valleys a bit & check what's going on in England in general. Have a word with Midlanders & Lancastrians in particular who have seen & are seeing vast changes in their way of life since open borders became the order of the day.