Hi christians !
Mikey - I hadnt realised it was Palm Sunday !
well mikey - this is what you proddos called latitudinarianism - the broad spectrum of theology allows one to say " but that doesnt matter"
I note non-christians and atheists wading in and giving us an opinion on erm christian theology - well hell - the christians on AB blaaart about muslim beliefs often enough and get it wrong
and finally are we hopelessly confusing
the Virgin Brith - ( that is Jesus had a mudder but no father - )
"And Mary said to the angel, "How will this be, since I do not know a man?" that stuff....Luke ch 1
and immaculate conception ?
Mary was born without original sin - she was never baptised see which abolishes or cleanses original sin - but bore jesus who most definitely WAS born without sin
yes I think we are
( even the protestants believe in the virgin birth - as one retired arch bishop of canterbury ( Fisher ) said to me)
The doctrine of the Immaculate Conception (Mary born without original sin) was declared dogma by the pope in 1854 and NOT 1950.
https://www.ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/jp2bvm23.htm
The whole thing about Lourdes and St Bernadette
and the visions of Our Lady and the words
" I am the immaculate conception " - that stuff - is 1858....
[ the boys and girls were showing some resistance to the dogma]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernadette_Soubirous
so the catholic church wheeled out a teenage saint to say
" you better believe this you damned atheists!"
in Gascon Occitan (oops) apparently